is there any evidence for this? it seems like a bullshit theory cooked up out of spite, instead of cooked up out of racism like the wuhan lab leak theory. isn’t it far more likely that the virus just emerged naturally somewhere in the world through transmission from an animal, like every other coronavirus?
The Fairfax County Health Department reported a mysterious respiratory outbreak in the Greenspring Retirement Home in Fairfax Virginia on July 11th, 2019
One day later, the CDC begins an inspection and fully shuts down Fort Detrick under a set of extraordinary circumstances that could have only involved extreme threat to human life. Full suspensions happen when “a departure from the SAR is found to human, animal, and or plant health, or to public safety.”
The statement said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention decided to issue a “cease and desist order” last month to halt the research at Fort Detrick because the center did not have “sufficient systems in place to decontaminate wastewater” from its highest-security labs.
https://archive.is/dHGBw
The two breaches reported by USAMRIID to the CDC demonstrated a failure of the Army laboratory to "implement and maintain containment procedures sufficient to contain select agents or toxins" that were made by operations in biosafety level 3 and 4 laboratories, according to the report. Biosafety level 3 and 4 are the highest levels of containment, requiring special protective equipment, air flow and standard operating procedures.
Due to redactions to protect against notification of the release of an agent under the Federal Select Agent Program, it is unclear the result of the two breaches.
The report includes a large section redacted to protect against the release of a report or inspection of a specific registered person that would endanger public health or safety.
you're not actually serious, are you?The genome of manufactured organisms/viruses looks very different than that of ones that arise through natural selection. There are certain markers that will almost definiely give i away. Covid had no signs of being engineered. And something like "Well maybe they engineered it to make it look natural" is basically the same as saying "Maybe NASA built an actual rocket that had the capability of going to the moon, in order to fake the moon landing"
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a dude named Ralph Baric developed a technique to hide any traces of engineering. It's called the "no-see'm" technique:
Not only that, but they’d figured out how to perform their assembly seamlessly, without any signs of human handiwork. Nobody would know if the virus had been fabricated in a laboratory or grown in nature. Baric called this the “no-see’m method,” and he asserted that it had “broad and largely unappreciated molecular biology applications.” (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory.html)
Also, this dude is super tied to the military bioweapon industrial complex, including Fort Detrick: https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/libs-love-lab-leak-geopolitical-sting-op-the-wuhan-coincidence-w-gumby4christ (@59:10)
@GalacticFederation I think you might find the links I posted above interesting.
Yeah, there is. A engineered organism will show signs of "intelligent design", the genetic differences will be specifically just the ones chosen with intent to certain things. Evolutionary developed organisms are naturally selected random mutations that just happen to "work better", not necessarily best or well thought out. For example, there's no reason why a genetically engineered organism would have changes made it the 99% of its DNA (or RNA in this case) that's non-coding. Whereas evolution would collect changes to that 99% of its DNA along with any other beneficial changes to the coding part thats only 1% of its genome.
If it came from a lab, it could probably be mutated from SARS-COV-1 or MERS-COV, as both of those were the most notable viruses that would be being studied in a lab. Instead, the virus appeared to come from the same lineage as wild viruses in the area. There's obviously a CHANCE that it could have by coincidence acquired all those same mutations as the wild population, but its so ridiculously small that it can be thrown out as signficiantly impossible.
Here's another paper - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7054935/ that specifically talks about COVID-19's unlikelihood of being engineered. The line "The absence of a logical targeted pattern in the new viral sequences and a close relative in a wildlife species (bats) are the most revealing signs that SARS-CoV-2 evolved by natural evolution" stood out to me.
I was expecting you to cite a scientific law that stated “all viruses that leak out of labs can always be detected”, an impossible bar for you to pass, as there is no such law.
I don’t know why you bothered frantically searching for that. It has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
A scientific law? What the fuck are you talking about? I mean you could be sure with 5 sigma orso that an entity with this genome was designed by a person with a certain intent, or was the product of natural evolution. There's no such thing as knowing with absolute certainty in any kind of science, all you can do is reject the null hypothesis with n degrees of confidence. In this case, you can reject that SARS-Cov-19 was developed by artificial genetic manufacture within an acceptable degree of certainty.
is there any evidence for this? it seems like a bullshit theory cooked up out of spite, instead of cooked up out of racism like the wuhan lab leak theory. isn’t it far more likely that the virus just emerged naturally somewhere in the world through transmission from an animal, like every other coronavirus?
The Fairfax County Health Department reported a mysterious respiratory outbreak in the Greenspring Retirement Home in Fairfax Virginia on July 11th, 2019
https://abcnews.go.com/US/respiratory-outbreak-investigated-retirement-community-54-residents-fall/story?id=64275865
One day later, the CDC begins an inspection and fully shuts down Fort Detrick under a set of extraordinary circumstances that could have only involved extreme threat to human life. Full suspensions happen when “a departure from the SAR is found to human, animal, and or plant health, or to public safety.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html
https://archive.is/dHGBw
you're not actually serious, are you?The genome of manufactured organisms/viruses looks very different than that of ones that arise through natural selection. There are certain markers that will almost definiely give i away. Covid had no signs of being engineered. And something like "Well maybe they engineered it to make it look natural" is basically the same as saying "Maybe NASA built an actual rocket that had the capability of going to the moon, in order to fake the moon landing"
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a dude named Ralph Baric developed a technique to hide any traces of engineering. It's called the "no-see'm" technique:
Also, this dude is super tied to the military bioweapon industrial complex, including Fort Detrick: https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/libs-love-lab-leak-geopolitical-sting-op-the-wuhan-coincidence-w-gumby4christ (@59:10)
@GalacticFederation I think you might find the links I posted above interesting.
I found that very interesting!
I saw your post on the front page and logged in just to upvote it, amazing stuff, thanks!
That’s not true at all. What’s your source for this?
Yeah, there is. A engineered organism will show signs of "intelligent design", the genetic differences will be specifically just the ones chosen with intent to certain things. Evolutionary developed organisms are naturally selected random mutations that just happen to "work better", not necessarily best or well thought out. For example, there's no reason why a genetically engineered organism would have changes made it the 99% of its DNA (or RNA in this case) that's non-coding. Whereas evolution would collect changes to that 99% of its DNA along with any other beneficial changes to the coding part thats only 1% of its genome.
Coming from a lab doesn't necessarily mean it was actively engineered. What's to stop it mutating naturally within a lab culture?
The preson I responded to specifically used the term "manufactured"
In our discipline, everything cultured is manufactured, and the manufactured is the organic.
If it came from a lab, it could probably be mutated from SARS-COV-1 or MERS-COV, as both of those were the most notable viruses that would be being studied in a lab. Instead, the virus appeared to come from the same lineage as wild viruses in the area. There's obviously a CHANCE that it could have by coincidence acquired all those same mutations as the wild population, but its so ridiculously small that it can be thrown out as signficiantly impossible.
Calm down and cite sources.
Here's another paper - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7054935/ that specifically talks about COVID-19's unlikelihood of being engineered. The line "The absence of a logical targeted pattern in the new viral sequences and a close relative in a wildlife species (bats) are the most revealing signs that SARS-CoV-2 evolved by natural evolution" stood out to me.
https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/gb-2008-9-3-r56
I was expecting you to cite a scientific law that stated “all viruses that leak out of labs can always be detected”, an impossible bar for you to pass, as there is no such law.
I don’t know why you bothered frantically searching for that. It has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
A scientific law? What the fuck are you talking about? I mean you could be sure with 5 sigma orso that an entity with this genome was designed by a person with a certain intent, or was the product of natural evolution. There's no such thing as knowing with absolute certainty in any kind of science, all you can do is reject the null hypothesis with n degrees of confidence. In this case, you can reject that SARS-Cov-19 was developed by artificial genetic manufacture within an acceptable degree of certainty.
Calling for sources sounds like fed posting.
That sounds silly.
Got a source for that?
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I think in light of what has been posted, you ought to reflect on the cognitive biases that lead to you to conceit and bad science.
Thanks.
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im sorry but i can't believe that a nation founded by folks who gave blankets infected with small pox to indigenous peoples would do such a thing