• lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    The last sentence is such a mask off, liberals are barely hiding their tinfoil hat thinking and the fact that they hate immigrants as much as the far right.

  • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    Imagine an FSB agent going to a bombed out village in sub-Saharan Africa, from which UN forces just bloodily expelled ISIS fighters, and that agent trying to convince the villagers to all get up and move to Britain because Russia wants them too.

      • Florn [they/them]
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        11 months ago

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_%E2%80%93_West_Africa_Province

      • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        ISIS has had a strong presence in Central and Northern Africa, and along with this article, off the top of my head I can say that there is a current UN multinational operation that is still fighting encircled remnant ISIS forces in Mali, Niger, Nigeria, and Mozambique.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territory_of_the_Islamic_State#:~:text=As%20of%202022%2C%20most%20of,large%20swathes%20of%20eastern%20Mali.

        Quote, "As of 2022, most of IS's African territory is confined to northeastern Nigeria and northern Mozambique, alongside large swathes of eastern Mali."

        This is from 2015:

        https://www.iiss.org/en/publications/strategic-comments/2015/isis-in-africa/

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    There always has to be an external malicious actor at play because otherwise it would mean that liberalism is failing and people are increasingly rejecting it. We see this happening in US as well where democrats still believe in the whole Russiagate conspiracy theory despite it having been thoroughly debunked at this point.

    People who are still in the liberal mainstream are invariably those who haven't been hit by any significant economic hardship, and they see their conditions as being largely representative of those of a typical person. They dismiss the notion that people are rejecting liberalism because the standard of living is declining because their own standard of living has remained largely unchanged. So, the only logical explanation must be that nefarious Russians or Chinese or whoever are behind all this brewing civil unrest western countries are seeing.

    • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      All these years, libs have been blaming crime on video games, music, and other media. Should we be shocked that it's projection? That they base their worldview on games like Civ VI and Masters of Orion where you click 'send spy' and a little avatar walks across the border and hides among the designated enemy?

    • sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      There is also the fact that they had used up all the child slaves and stolen inheritances of abducted aboriginal First Nation children in Indian Residential fake schools that officially ended in 1998 and that continued after 1998 in secret to sustain the excessive free riding demand of Western European diaspora. The Western European diaspora could uses the immigrant of color as source of slaves and thievery to sustain the white free riding privileges, but the exploitation is not as effective as the Indian Residential fake school slave camps and death camps. In fact, the European diaspora of North America and Australia still need to illegally dump toxic chemical waste and landfill with highly poisonous leachate into the properties of Aboriginal groups and African Americans, lie that the residential fake school Holocaust are just "cultural genocide" to hide that fact that all the Nazi war crimes originated in the Indian Residential fake schools, and imprison aboriginal people in concentration camps which are used as toxic chemical dump sites until the Aboriginal groups forfeit the fruit of their labor and the reparation for the 150 years of fake school death camps.

    • stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml
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      11 months ago

      The irony here is that the USSR actually took in refugees that Europe and the US wouldn't and otherwise allowed for a lot of immigration. If you were from Africa and you wanted to become a doctor before 2000 or so, you went to Russia.

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        They had increasing numbers of illegal immigrants all without passports crossing over from Russia in recent weeks.

        I just checked the "increasing numbers" and it turns out it's a couple hundred people at most. You're really being a baby about this. Is it also Russia's fault when you stub your toe in the morning?

          • AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml
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            11 months ago

            Truly Finland's #1 problem, illegal aliens from Kazakhstan!

            Or you're racist shithead and it doesn't matter what Russia or anyone actually does. Your politics is merely a set of vibes-based trivia that appeal to your prejudices.

          • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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            11 months ago

            It's still racism to talk about illegal immigrants. It's Russophobic to blame Russia for being racist.

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              It's still racism to talk about illegal immigrants

              I'd probably word this as "it's racism to make a boogeyman out of illegal immigrants" or something. Obviously just referring to them as a group is analytically helpful in a number of situations

      • DankZedong @lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        But he is talking about Geert Wilders and his anti immigration stance, saying the massive waves are Russia's responsibility. There are near 0 immigrants in The Netherlands coming from Russia. So is Russia also responsible for the Arab and African refugees that are coming to The Netherlands? For the Polish and Bulgarian and Romanian labour immigrants?

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    11 months ago

    I've seen that take all over Reddit. Somehow Putin is causing Europe to be racist towards migrants and Wagner is in there to make Africa and the Middle East unstable so more migrants will go into Europe. Russiagate was the biggest gift libs ever got because now they accuse anything of being Russian.

    They tried that shit in some parts of Latin America and it didn't take off because not as many people hate Putin as they do.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      It's worth noting that this didn't just happen organically. The democrats in US cultivated the whole Russiagate conspiracy theory to explain why Clinton lost to Trump back in 2016. Associating Russia with Trump was a brilliant move because Trump is so deeply hated by the democrat base, and this hatred was easily transplanted onto Russia by association. Thanks to the whole Mueller report, we now know that this was complete nonsense. Jacobin did some good reporting on it, but this didn't really get much coverage in the mainstream.

      • https://jacobin.com/2020/04/russiagate-christopher-steele-dossier-trump-election
      • https://jacobin.com/2019/03/russiagate-donald-trump-mueller-report
      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        11 months ago

        Definitely saving this the next time an obnoxious lib sends me an article "proving" Russian interference.

      • comhelio@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        Also Aaron mate and Max blumenthal did good reporting on it. Russia hacking US election . lol

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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          11 months ago

          I just love how people genuinely believe that spending few hundred thousand on Fb ads tilted an election campaign parties poured billions of dollars into. It's also funny how this whole election interference logic is never applied to Israel. If libs are so upset about Russian interference than why do they never have anything to say about the fact that Israel has an incredible amount of influence over their political system.

      • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        The democrats saw the republicans get all crazy with their Qanon and got jalous so they made their own deep state new world order conspiracy theory.

  • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    I'm just so dumbfounded at that last statement. Immigration waves coordinated by russia? fucking what?!

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      This has been all over Finnish news lately and my boomer relatives are going apopleptic about it. There is a huge surge of immigrants through the Eastern border currently, and I think the part where Russia comes in is that Russia is supposedly fast-tracking all immigrants that arrive within its borders visas and sending them to the Finnish border

  • HaSch@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    I don't know how many rubles I'd demand for voluntarily throwing away a quiet life to go on a Russian mission crossing the Mediterranean sea in a rowing boat, populate an abandoned Polish gym hall with like a thousand other migrants, and then live on subsidies in an area full of nazis; but it would not be a sum that the Kremlin could feasibly offer

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    "Pekka Kallioniemi is a postdoctoral research fellow at the Tampere University and a social media expert."

    For once I get to do the "muh taxpayer money" meme

  • ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    This post is like Tommy Wiseau’s The Room: so convoluted and stupid, but I can just barely understand what’s being said. I can’t feign ignorance and say I don’t understand a single word they’re saying. But to say that I get where they’re coming from or that their points have any relevance or connection with the other shit they present is even more false. 1/10 post by the Lib, do better, get your narratives straight and stick to it