I fucking hate Biden/kamala. I get the argument some have made that Biden is more manageable to work with and push or try to atleast, push leftist policies. But honestly I don’t see how he’s ever going to defund the police, or implement M4A.

I really don’t know what to do. I’d rather vote Green Party. I can’t wrap my doomer head around this shit

  • makoivis [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Bernie or bust only has teeth if you go through with it.

    They tell you they don’t need your vote. Why give it to them? Vote 3rd party.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      It only has teeth if:

      1. You go through with it,
      2. You make your reasons abundantly clear, so it can't be spun as another reason to attack or ignore the left, and
      3. It's the difference in the election.

      I'm not sure we'll get 2 or 3 done, and fucking up either or both of those can easily backfire.

      • makoivis [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        What would backfiring look like? Them ignoring you, again?

        Go through with it, make your reasons clear.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Backfiring would involve the left loudly proclaiming that it's not voting for Biden as a bloc, and then Biden winning anyways. No better way to prove, conclusively, that you have no power.

          The left isn't really being ignored now, anyways. See the pandering about Biden being the Most Progressive Candidate Ever, the meetings with Bernie, and all the effort being poured into trying to bully the left to get in line. They don't think they need us badly enough to make any meaningful concessions, but they are worried about poor left turnout sinking the election.

          • makoivis [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            They clearly aren’t worried in the slightest. You already have no power, it’s already been conclusively proven. Now is the time to build that power, an it starts by saying no.