https://twitter.com/BusterSwordsman/status/1403517162896166913
For an example of how this is a good thing, scientists have figured out how to artificially create rhino horns and want to flood the market to drive down the price and cut poachers’ legs out from under them.
Once that happens, poachers can work as long and hard as they want, and their labor will still be worthless.
I am once again begging you to read Marx and stop thinking the Mud Pie argument has any validity whatsoever
labor is a cost center
sales is where the profits come from
do you business bruh?
imo business school students are a bit more aware of how profit is made. this type of thinking looks more like a humanities degree+pure ideology.
I know they are aware of their hypocrisy. That's why they are so harmful.
It's funny because corporate finance is one of the most orthodox Marxist areas of modern life. It's literally all about how employees are/need to be a "value add", how Capital spending needs to deliver a certain rate of profit to make investors happy (not just "make money" like a lot of naive free-market lovers think).
That tree has all the value of all the chairs you can make from it, so we'll sell it for a value that is less than all the chairs you could make from it :curious-marx:
Nah. They sit in their office, move some numbers in some programs/stack of papers/exchange words and tree changes to chairs. That’s how they conceive the world lol
I am selling my physical body for a value that is equal to its eventual presence in the Dyson sphere.
Iirc Marx's definition of value in the first chapters of Das Kapital agrees with that very statement, as an individual working aimlessly isn't as worthy as the one collaborating more efficiently to the production cycle.
Well if you explore what Marx's labour term means and is (Capital's definitions and The German Ideology) you will find out that labour is what is done to keep up society, to reproduce and such. Its form is dependent on the material relations and how labour is done (and it will be more and more alienated) depends on the social relations which spring form that, too.
So work isn't wage work that is aimless, yes, but you can easily work alone and bestow value on something.
The analysis of LTV production within capital that Marx refined from Ricardo and Smith (and in some elements Says) did already reduce the field more and more that Marx is analyzing as introduction for the workers reading his book the system of value creation in capitalist systems in which factories and wage work are common and "working alone" is impossible for the proletarians, since they are doubly free (own no means of production, so they can't produce goods on their own since police violence enforces that - and are free to leave what areas they are born in).
Work that is aimlessly in the sense of not producing - at least societal statistically averaged - is just not work, the problem and question isn't if it bestows value or not, when it isn't work.
I'm not talking about the definition of labor, which is easily assertable. I'm talking about the definition of Value stated in Das Kapital.
The twitter dumbass isn't talking about efficiency in production cycles and he isn't talking about individuals, he literally said "labor" as in the collective has no inherent value and therefore cannot give anything value.....does that sound like a defense of "collaborate efficiency in production"?
Sorry to be the one to tell you this Justin, but you're a fucking idiot.
So if this guy grows his own tomatoes he can't eat them, since that would be the value of growing them. How do these braindead vampires walk and chew gum at the same time?
Bolts of linen just materializing into existence then metamorphs into jackets.
This coming from the same dipshits whining that businesses can’t find workers
lol right, like even by their logic if only exchange of goods creates value then what are they paying a worker for?
CEO labor is incredibly valuable for investors. Their entire job is to maximize the amount of surplus value that Capital gets vs Labor.
Yes human labor power means nothing, so that means the labor put into making commodities would mean those commodities are worth nothing too.
