This is now a pro nuclear power group.

  • MichelLouise [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I realized that the process of urbanization is actually very positive for nature.

    I stopped listening there. Give me one good reason to listen to the other 19 minutes.

    • Owl [he/him]
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      The alternatives are suburbs (an environmental nightmare of pavement, lawns and cars) or a mass reduction in the world's population (fascist).

      Cities are the greenest option for human civilization, because it leaves most of the world to not be a city.

      • MichelLouise [he/him]
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        Cities are the greenest option for human civilization

        Well they can be with appropriate urban planning, but it's not an inherent property of urbanization (in which I include suburbs). Also, do you realize the paradox in your last sentence?

        But I guess you convinced me to continue watching.

            • Enver_Hoxha [she/her]
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              Do you honestly think suburbs are worth having? For a slightly larger home and longer commuting that requires cars and the extenssive road infrastruckture and its absolutely not better for the environment in any way

              • MichelLouise [he/him]
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                I don't think that at all and don't understand how you came to think I was (downvotes not from me, I'm genuinely trying to get your point).

                My take was more that "cities = good because if pollution in city, then pollution not in nature" is a very, very dumb argument (I know that was not exactly @Owl's argument though, just the way it's presented in the video)