I don't have the hateboner for Hamilton that a lot of this site has, but this is fucking horrendous. It fully justifies bullying theater kids. Schools should stop having music programs.

  • GuyWTriangle [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I saw a tweet a while ago that was something like "Broadway figured out theater kids were the only ones that still watched theater so they gave up and started to cater to only them"

    • deadtoddler420 [any]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I mean this is just what a high school theater kid would write. Almost every song sounds the same and the characterization is razer thin. Every twenty minutes theres a liberal pandering line too.

    • Nounverb [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      It's really depressing how bad most of the shows I watch are and how little I can actually express that to people's faces

  • sunneonix [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    why don't you have the hateboner for hamilton that a lot of this site has? i don't get it.

    • deadtoddler420 [any]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      The music is more varied. For as stupid an understanding as he has of the historical figures, he has an interpretation of them that he sticks to and builds them as characters. Completely ahistorical characters, but characters nonetheless. It feels more like someone who knows how to make a musical but doesn't remotely understand the material while this movie felt like it was someone who knew neither.

    • RedCoat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Not op but I feel that although it is a bit ick with it's friendly portrayal of slavers at least it has done a lot of good for the various cast members both original and touring, overall it will have given a chance to a lot of black performers in a very white dominated industry. I guess my overall thoughts on it are is its not really going to make anyone feel more positive about these characters, libs and chuds already love them, but it at least does some actual material good for those performing in it.

      • Nounverb [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Hamilton is LMM firing a handgun into the skull of hip hop and taking whatever lines and beats he can from the pink matter to make Rap for Whites

  • sandinista209 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Probably not gonna watch this but it looked like a movie that white liberals will watch and feel like they aren’t gentrifying cities.

  • regul [any]
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    3 years ago

    Immortal Technique did nothing wrong.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I like good musicals. In The Heights goes into the same trash can as Hamilton and Rent.

    • deadtoddler420 [any]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      lin manuel miranda's much hotter stand in owns a convenience store in a neighrborhood that's supposed to be really poor (note that we rarely see evidence of this, he owns a convenience store at 27 and another major character is going to stanford). He wants to move back to the dominican republican and saves up the money to buy a bar there and do so. however, he falls in love with a girl who he treats like an incel, so he stays. the whole time there's a second b-story love story going on, and it really feels like they should've just combined them because neither gets remotely fleshed out. it's also incredibly hard to guess anyone's age because they all look in their 30s and no one behaves like an adult.

      like, if you're watching a movie about poor people and you're thinking "i wish i was these people because all their problems have incredibly easy solutions", you fucked up very hard.

      • rubpoll [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        like, if you’re watching a movie about poor people and you’re thinking “i wish i was these people because all their problems have incredibly easy solutions”, you fucked up very hard.

        RENT does this...

        • deadtoddler420 [any]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          What's bad is like, not only are the problems super easy to solve, they're all introduced almost immediately and never evolve. They all also have an intro song for what they want despite re-iterating it all throughout the movie. Like it's so boring to watch. One of the big conflicts is a girl doesn't want to go to Stanford anymore. She tries to tell her dad she can't go anymore, which would cause any parent to freak out and be like "what are you gonna do now". Instead he just gets up and leaves and the scene basically resumes an hour later.

      • MarxNAngels [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        okay, but who cares about problem solving? the movie is just a vehicle to explore the push and pull of ambition and community, which might be especially acute in immigrant communities, and ya know, celebrate the latin diaspora of washington heights, but by extension, the diaspora everywhere.

        i will say though it's absolutely insane to watch the smart girl meltdown -- like, just transfer to columbia lol.

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I used to assume I liked musicals because I liked Little Shop of Horrors and the original Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (both had decent commie themes). Then I tried watching other musicals, and OMG they're pointless.

  • MarxNAngels [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    honestly its pretty fucking fun to watch just to see how many times LMM is able to weasel his rat face onto the screen

    • threshold [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      o7 to the film producer who somehow tricked 40+ year old LMM into not being the hot 28year old lead

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    were the critics paid off for their reviews of this and Hamilton, they're ridiculously fawning almost without exception

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      People who become media critics are self selecting. At least in the big publications.

      It's like how you get an Oscar nom if you make a film about Hollywood.

      It's not about paying people off, it's making stuff that these people like.

  • playboicarti [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I can't believe they're making two shitty West Side Story remakes this year

  • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I thought my high schools production of it was pretty decent, but the massive ad campaign for it with every celebrity they could find circlejerking Hamilton turned me far away from watching the movie. The promotional material I saw (from a talk show that I turned off soon afterward) let me know that

    Michelle Obama called Hamilton the Musical the “best piece of art in any form that I have ever seen in my life.”

    which is funny to me I think