You know, maybe I am more liberal than leftist if this is what socialism is, with all this stupidpol shit. I thought it was dictatorship of the proletariat, not tyranny of the majority.
Think I’ve given up on revolution because every revolution will be dominated by these assholes. I just want to farm.
I called them out as tailists and they said actually fighting for gay rights was commandism, because it talks down to imperialized workers that don't support gay rights.
Every leftist I've met IRL has been very good toward LGBT rights and addressing structural racism. These stupidpol types you only see online because in most real movements they are shunned and recognized as the selfish hypocrites they are. EDIT: I'm reading from some other people in this thread and I might have a regional bias. It depends on where you are, sadly it appears in some countries there are communist parties which support homophobic policies and those parties are the most popular leftist movements. YMMV
abondoning the idea of revolution or DotP because online stupidpol takes convinced you that the majority of leftists (especially young ones since we are talking decades down the line) are -and will be- homophobic stupidpol people and so any potential revolution will have that character and be dominated by it, has strong "made up twitter guy" energy
Its a legit point we should make that we should have to keep these people down and away but why would people think that its nearly possible or realistic that "leftist" people like this would dominate a revolution and the society afterwards ? Enough to peace out from a revolutionary movement or project pre-emptively decades before it may be even possible to begin constructing it
I dont think stupidpol,racist and transphobic opinions and people just existing as a small minority inside the left (that constantly becomes smaller as time goes by and that doesnt even do much) and socialist projects being homophobic a century ago coming from illiterate peasant societies warrants seeing this as some immediate threat or as something that is possible to happen
You know, maybe I am more liberal than leftist if this is what socialism is, with all this stupidpol shit. I thought it was dictatorship of the proletariat, not tyranny of the majority.
Think I’ve given up on revolution because every revolution will be dominated by these assholes. I just want to farm.
I called them out as tailists and they said actually fighting for gay rights was commandism, because it talks down to imperialized workers that don't support gay rights.
Oh no, don’t educate workers, that so silly and condescending, ahaha. Just sit in armchair like a boss
Only fascist workers allowed in MY brainspace.
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Every leftist I've met IRL has been very good toward LGBT rights and addressing structural racism. These stupidpol types you only see online because in most real movements they are shunned and recognized as the selfish hypocrites they are. EDIT: I'm reading from some other people in this thread and I might have a regional bias. It depends on where you are, sadly it appears in some countries there are communist parties which support homophobic policies and those parties are the most popular leftist movements. YMMV
abondoning the idea of revolution or DotP because online stupidpol takes convinced you that the majority of leftists (especially young ones since we are talking decades down the line) are -and will be- homophobic stupidpol people and so any potential revolution will have that character and be dominated by it, has strong "made up twitter guy" energy
yeah, like, whatever
thats the correct response to the dramma yes
I'm not going to be used by a 'revolution' and then be tossed away for the same racist and bigoted bullshit that happened in the previous system.
Its a legit point we should make that we should have to keep these people down and away but why would people think that its nearly possible or realistic that "leftist" people like this would dominate a revolution and the society afterwards ? Enough to peace out from a revolutionary movement or project pre-emptively decades before it may be even possible to begin constructing it
I dont think stupidpol,racist and transphobic opinions and people just existing as a small minority inside the left (that constantly becomes smaller as time goes by and that doesnt even do much) and socialist projects being homophobic a century ago coming from illiterate peasant societies warrants seeing this as some immediate threat or as something that is possible to happen