Just having an argument with someone and can use more reinforcements

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    what does it mean to hurt US manufacturing?

    who is receiving the harm: workers in the form of fewer jobs or lower wages? the capitalists who own manufacturing concerns in terms of profit?

    • FunkyColdMedina [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      A friend brought up that American manufacturing has obviously declined in this country. I personally think a big role in that is the systemic gutting of unions. His view is "lol that's simply not true." I'm just trying to flesh out a more complete argument.

      I edited the title to better lay out my question using the word decline.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        same problem remains, decline in what number?

        is your main point that gutting unions enabled companies to move manufacturing jobs abroad?

          • RedCoat [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The problem is that moving manufacturing abroad guts unions, its hard to strike or have any meaningful counter to it for a union. If they are threatening to lay everyone off and move abroad what could a union do to stop it? Only really a mass general strike which is near impossible in the US due to trade based unions.

    • Diestar [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think this is the right question to ask. Productivity per worker went through the roof in the same time period. A factory that used to have 100 workers might be down to 10 employees today and still be more productive. Half those guys are nepotism hires, and IAMAW tells you to kick rocks because your shop is too small for them to bother organizing. There goes your union, wages, and 90 jobs.