I'm pretty sure you didn't actually watch the show. He was literally in jail. He wasn't a pedophile, even Penny was of legal age and he didn't do anything with her (would he have? He had already sent her away). His brokenness was a part of him.
People fuck up, Bojack in a television character way. They have friends that support them. Hell, even the Sackler family probably has friends, let alone people that think they shouldn't be forced to live in poverty for the rest of their lives.
The show wasn't just about Bojack. The main theme, if there was one, was how to be a good person, and how you have to do it consistently, everyday, and not just in big ways but in small ways - and not just to others but to yourself. It was about life and what happens the day after the happiest and saddest days of your life.
Plus it was fucking hilarious and awesome the way it told stories in interesting ways and set up jokes 10 episodes before the punchline.
No he makes out with 29 year old Sarah Lynn, who was his television daughter. Yeah it's super cringe, but nothing like sleeping with someone under age.
A drifting glow stick balloon floats by the ship and catches the attention of Charlotte. When Charlotte walks by to investigate, she hears noises from within the ship and opens the cabin door to discover both Penny and BoJack in bed, about to start undressing each other.
You already mentioned it but you seem to have forgotten that after his initial rejection the mom caught them about to undress each other.
Wait what? I distinctly remember the first season involving him coming on to the daughter of his long lost crush or something? In a later season he also visits her college and she is terrified of him.
That was the end of the 2nd season. (2 11). He takes Penny to the prom. Gives the teenagers bourbon (to replace the red bull and vodka). Penny's friend gets alcohol poisoning, but he ditches her and her date at the ER. When he gets home, Penny is dtf, but he turns her down. He then goes and sits by the fire with his old crush, Charlotte, Penny's mom, and they kiss. Charlotte tells him he needs to go, she has a happy family... He gets back to the boat and Penny is there. They're in the room together, clothed and sitting on the bed when Charlotte busts him.
Would he have? I don't know, I think that's what the scene was trying to say.
He wasn't into teens or anything, that wasn't a predilection or anything, he was into what a young Charlotte meant to him.
No, the only time he said anything like that was when he was doing his Oscar interview. He literally lost his erection when the boat was mentioned, and speculated on what he might have done ( his "stupid piece of shit" voice in action).
Edit - none of this is really the point though. Bojack was not a good person. He could be witty, smart and could do good things, but he wasn't a good person. That wasn't the point of the show. He was potentially redeemable, he could change if he worked at it, and it's not easy to change, but all you have is your future...
He literally never said he would have. He said something like it. I was trying to give you the benefit that you were arguing in good faith and not being trollish.
Ahh I see, maybe I did watch more than 2 seasons then.
Would he have? I don’t know, I think that’s what the scene was trying to say.
He wasn’t into teens or anything, that wasn’t a predilection or anything, he was into what a young Charlotte meant to him.
This is splitting hairs, I distinctly remember thinking that the ambiguity was very limited. Plus Penny being terrified of him in a later season should indicate that she had a sense that she was being taken advantage of (at least in hindsight). Anyway my sympathy for stuff like this is very limited - the whole show felt incredibly self indulgent (I am not saying Bojack had to face cosmic divine justice but these kinds of shows and themes feel terribly common to me). Tbf I can't expect much else from the milieu and people who get to create 'culture' (esp in America).
I'm pretty sure you didn't actually watch the show. He was literally in jail. He wasn't a pedophile, even Penny was of legal age and he didn't do anything with her (would he have? He had already sent her away). His brokenness was a part of him.
People fuck up, Bojack in a television character way. They have friends that support them. Hell, even the Sackler family probably has friends, let alone people that think they shouldn't be forced to live in poverty for the rest of their lives.
The show wasn't just about Bojack. The main theme, if there was one, was how to be a good person, and how you have to do it consistently, everyday, and not just in big ways but in small ways - and not just to others but to yourself. It was about life and what happens the day after the happiest and saddest days of your life.
Plus it was fucking hilarious and awesome the way it told stories in interesting ways and set up jokes 10 episodes before the punchline.
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Jerry Seinfeld
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I think Bojack and Jerry are both Gen Xers though.
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This feels very much like a "it is actually Ephebophilia" type of argument. Doesn't he make out with a teenager in season 1?
No he makes out with 29 year old Sarah Lynn, who was his television daughter. Yeah it's super cringe, but nothing like sleeping with someone under age.
You already mentioned it but you seem to have forgotten that after his initial rejection the mom caught them about to undress each other.
https://bojackhorseman.fandom.com/wiki/Penny_Carson
Wait what? I distinctly remember the first season involving him coming on to the daughter of his long lost crush or something? In a later season he also visits her college and she is terrified of him.
That was the end of the 2nd season. (2 11). He takes Penny to the prom. Gives the teenagers bourbon (to replace the red bull and vodka). Penny's friend gets alcohol poisoning, but he ditches her and her date at the ER. When he gets home, Penny is dtf, but he turns her down. He then goes and sits by the fire with his old crush, Charlotte, Penny's mom, and they kiss. Charlotte tells him he needs to go, she has a happy family... He gets back to the boat and Penny is there. They're in the room together, clothed and sitting on the bed when Charlotte busts him.
Would he have? I don't know, I think that's what the scene was trying to say.
He wasn't into teens or anything, that wasn't a predilection or anything, he was into what a young Charlotte meant to him.
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No, the only time he said anything like that was when he was doing his Oscar interview. He literally lost his erection when the boat was mentioned, and speculated on what he might have done ( his "stupid piece of shit" voice in action).
Edit - none of this is really the point though. Bojack was not a good person. He could be witty, smart and could do good things, but he wasn't a good person. That wasn't the point of the show. He was potentially redeemable, he could change if he worked at it, and it's not easy to change, but all you have is your future...
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He literally never said he would have. He said something like it. I was trying to give you the benefit that you were arguing in good faith and not being trollish.
Ahh I see, maybe I did watch more than 2 seasons then.
This is splitting hairs, I distinctly remember thinking that the ambiguity was very limited. Plus Penny being terrified of him in a later season should indicate that she had a sense that she was being taken advantage of (at least in hindsight). Anyway my sympathy for stuff like this is very limited - the whole show felt incredibly self indulgent (I am not saying Bojack had to face cosmic divine justice but these kinds of shows and themes feel terribly common to me). Tbf I can't expect much else from the milieu and people who get to create 'culture' (esp in America).
That was while he was making amends, AA style, while on a bender. Which was fucked up and darkly hilarious.
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