• garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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    3 years ago

    everybody else looks pretty fed up and skinny.

    i'm pretty fed up with pretending that north korea isn't a horrible place to live. i hate that attitude here. i defend china, because guess what, china has it's shit together and takes care of it's people.

    i am a huge fan of north korean foreign policy. fuck imperialism, and don't fuck with me because fuck you, but as far as their domestic situation is concerned i am completely against it. i've seen people who look like they're hungry and scared, even when watching videos of pro-north korea shit, where i'm looking for a reason to defend them. it just wasn't there. i've seen some people who look like they're reasonably comfortable, and even little old ladies slamming cops with purses and saying get the fuck outa here, but i've seen a lot more other shit where it really makes me question the material conditions of the people who live there, people who look like they're fucking starving.

    a lot of that can be attributed to the west completely embargoing them and sanctioning them, but they also have a lot of support from china, and their people should have better conditions. i have no love for kim jong un.

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      everybody else looks pretty fed up and skinny.

      yea, this one's American

      nothing more American than fake smiles and being fat

        • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          I just don't quite understand going full unhinged liberal "communism no food" rant on a silly post about Kim Jong-un kneeling next to Gary from Spongebob. Your comment is completely out of place and, even if it weren't out of its appropriate context, incoherent. Everyone else looks "fed up and skinny?" You mean these, presumably high ranking, military officers? You think they're victims of the oppressive tyranny of communism no food? Dude, if they're starving, there is no food at all. But they don't look "fed up and skinny" to me. They look like average sized human people caught in a still image making faces which could be misinterpreted as "fed up" if you're looking to make a Fox News segment.

          • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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            3 years ago

            are you fucking kidding me? this is the bullshit i'm fucking sick of. there's even a relatively healthy person in the fucking picture to compare them to. fuck off with your bullshit.

              • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                3 years ago

                because you think a fucking hammer and sickle means communism and equality. anyone can fly a fucking flag with no actual meaning.

                i've already defended what i think is righteous about north korea. if you can just ignore the suffering of the people who live there, then you're not really a fucking comrade.

                    • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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                      3 years ago

                      To clarify, you really do believe that under Kim Jong-un's tyranny, everyone but him is starving, even the high-ranking military officials who surround him? And, at the same time, that Kim Jong-un continues to exist? How exactly do you justify that obviously incorrect view? What, in this fantasy world, keeps Kim Jong-un alive?

                      • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                        3 years ago

                        i already pointed out that there are healthy people i've seen in videos. you making this "all or nothing, they would just eat him" view, while you watch people in america suffering in poverty, homeless, and in vast numbers, and saying "why haven't they just eaten them" as if it's some kind of proof that there's not a vast difference in equality is bullshit.

                        • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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                          3 years ago

                          , while you watch people in america suffering in poverty, homeless, and in vast numbers

                          If the starving homeless people in the US were also the people who surround the president, that president would not continue living for very long. Like, my opinion of the US president is meaningless because the only time I would ever even see him physically with my own eyes is from behind five dozen highly trained supercops who have studied for years every possible way I might try to kill him. That's why they don't give a shit whether I'm homeless or starving or anything else.

                          • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                            3 years ago

                            i don't really get what you're pointing out here, even homeless people in america are in more decent shape than 4/5 people in this picture.

                            • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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                              3 years ago

                              Are you counting Gary from Spongebob in your total number of people visible in this picture? Or are you counting this vaguely face-shaped blob of pixels among the victims of communism? Regardless, I don't understand where you're getting the idea that these people are unhealthy. They look fine. Can you articulate what you think is wrong with them?

                            • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                              3 years ago

                              i don’t really get what you’re pointing out here, even homeless people in america are in more decent shape than 4/5 people in this picture.

                              1. No they're not, because the people in this pic are in average shape.
                              2. even if they weren't, America is a sparse-populated, recently genocided, recently settled country with tons of land per person
                              • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                                3 years ago

                                i fucking said fuck off and disengage. you're so full of fucking shit, to point out the errors in your bullshit i'd literally have obscenities every other fucking word. FUCK OFF and FUCK YOU.

                                  • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                                    3 years ago

                                    you're a fucking chud. you lack critical thinking skills. you're just "well this wasn't it so i'm going to just go as far away from this thought as possible" while keeping the same line of thinking. learn to fucking question the shit that is fed to you and if it makes sense it makes sense, theoretically you may have some point, but if you actually think that north korea is epitome of communism you have fucking hit a fucking wall and are just spouting fucking bullshit. yes, standing up to imperialism is amazing, yes self defense is amazing, allowing your people to fucking starve and suffer is fucking bullshit. if that's the shit you subscribe to you're not a fucking communist. FUCK OFF.

                                    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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                                      3 years ago

                                      but if you actually think that north korea is epitome of communism

                                      Nobody thinks this. Except the strawman you invented I guess.

                                      allowing your people to fucking starve and suffer is fucking bullshit

                                      DPRK is situated in a mountainous area where it's fucking hard to grow food. They are literally draining the sea so they can get more farmland . The fucking fields are in every space they can put shit into. What more do you actually want them to do? Attack the south? Get taken over by american chuds and their puppets? Build a fucking space elevator and farm in the orbit? Goddamn.

                                        • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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                                          3 years ago

                                          Real "Emma Goldman complaining about the Soviet Union not being communist while it was in the middle of a civil war" vibes.

                                          No, don't bother with the witty comeback. Consider me disengaged.

                                    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                                      3 years ago

                                      you lack critical thinking skills

                                      This is coming from someone who unironically thinks that "1st world US homeless people being well-fed" is an inherent failing of 3rd world countries

                                      Might as well start shaming India for having more malnourished people than Britain

                                      but if you actually think that north korea is epitome of communism

                                      I literally never said this

                                      • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                                        3 years ago

                                        i think that the fucking vast difference in health between high ups in north korea and the welfare of it's regular citizens and workers speaks for itself.

                                        fuck you.

                                        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                                          3 years ago

                                          i think that the fucking vast difference in health between high ups in north korea

                                          so are you at least admitting that the dudes in the picture are decently nourished now? lol

                                              • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                                                3 years ago

                                                if you are pretending these people look fucking healthy you're just a fucking lost cause, and once again fuck you. look at any fucking video of actual elite in north korea, where they're in fucking suits and not grunts and they don't look like this.

                                                    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                                                      3 years ago

                                                      Aggressively making inflammati statements that you know will be controversial and then demanding people disengage when your point is questioned is being a baby. Especially when you're being way more hostile than anyone else.

                                                    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                                                      3 years ago

                                                      I didn't want to go full-on argument mode because I don't like arguing with people

                                                      But in this entire wall of text you've written to multiple people, you've never EVEN ONCE articulated how:

                                                      1. the dudes in the picture look malnourished (they don't, ask literally anyone, go pull up a friend and link them this photo and ask their opinion)
                                                      2. why malnourished people in DPRK are fundamentally different from malnourished people in other 3rd world countries

                                                      All you've done is call people names.

                                                      • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                                                        3 years ago

                                                        they look like they're fucking starving. the only person that looks healthy in that picture is fucking kim jong un.

                                                        their fucking ruler has all the power in the world to call on their allies to help them. if you're going to let your countrymen wither away, at least wither away with them.

            • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              uhh, why do you keep pretending that everyone else in the photo look malnourished?

              Kim is a little chubby, everyone else is normal. Are you okay?

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      You know, I always thought there should be a book written that's in support of socialism, but that also lays out why it's not going to be utopian, and what delineates stuff like Marxism from those utopian visions of socialism

          • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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            3 years ago

            they've never been taken care of. for several fucking years. of course this has an effect, but to pretend that they were doing just fine for years is fucking complete bullshit. look up fucking north korea videos from like 2016. this isn't fucking new. it's just even worse now.