This one's for the ones who haven't seeked out a party or organization to join. I'm just curious what's stopping you? We're at the tail-end of a global pandemic and a deepening crisis within capitalism, and the sooner you develop the organizational skills necessary to navigate the coming years the better off you'll be to agitate for the working class, for the dispossessed etc.

This post isn't meant as an attack, just thought it'd be good to start a conversation on the matter. Perhaps there are things I haven't contemplated and I'd like to shine a light on my blind spots.

(p.s. shouldn't this comm be called askhexbear? idk)

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    No good orgs exist locally and the ones that work nationally in my country are all ones I dont wanna join either because I disagree with their politics or I think they are not doing anything productive, Im not capable of starting an org/chapter on my own either.

    • SortTime [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I can prolly guess at the general disagreements but if you don't mind me asking, what's your political/theoretical position?

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Marxist-Leninist, theres basically 3 categories of org where I live, there are the old remnant ML parties and their splinter groups who are all as far as I have experienced some degree of social reactionary, wether it be about immigration or LGBTQ people. Then there are the trots who are typically not social reactionary, at least not openly, but I think their tactics are ineffective and personally exhausting from my time spent 6 months in one where you were constantly pushed to sell papers in public. Finally there are the anarchists/syndicalists, they tend to work locally more and I was part of one when I lived in another city but since 2 years back I've moved elsewhere and there are no active groups as far as I can tell. They are usually really decent and syndicalists typically are tendency-neutral compared to local work and union work, which is nice.

        • carbohydra [des/pair]
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          3 years ago

          6 months in one where you were constantly pushed to sell papers in public

          psyop or not, this is one of the best ways to get your members to commit social suicide

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            3 years ago

            It fucking sucks cause even if you told them like "Hey I have social anxiety and it fucks me up to have to do this kinda shit" they either go like "Oh dont worry we'll support you" or just wait until the next time and ask you directly regardless.

            • carbohydra [des/pair]
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              3 years ago

              In my experience it can be ok exposure therapy, since if you live in a moderately big city, you probably won't meet most people ever again. The added pressure of being a personal Representative of Communism definitely isn't helping though. Teams are very good, and if you can decide up front that the others will be expected to do the talking, the worst thing that can happen is that you unwittingly give a flyer to some chud who gets mad and starts arguing with you, but just remember that you weren't going to change his mind anyway so just dismiss him politely and no harm done.

          • SortTime [he/him]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            Fortunately in my org the papers are free :tofu-cool:

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Personal entryism kinda works sometimes if you want to give it a shot. If an org is slightly healthy but not ideologically disciplined (something that can be annoying), the determinant of what gets done is often just who's willing to run meetings, recruit, and show up. If the thing you do happens to be a bit vanguardy, well, that's just a win.