I think some of those countries would break up further, like Texas, New Mexico and Hawaii I see easily being their own. Whenever I think of future balkanization the first state on my mind isn't Texas, but Hawaii. The Hawaiians I've spoken to are proud af of their state and have a pretty strong sense of belonging to it, even if they're outside of the native community, which surprised me. Seems, I'm not a local this is just a layperson's limited observations, I also dated a native for a while (who was of the 'oh yea Hawaii would totally be independent during a balkanization' mindset, back to my peoples' hands as it should be), so that biases me as well.
Having lived in CA a number of years, I think it'd split depending how/why we balkanize . Examples, us has a sudden rather non violent collapse for heck knows why, since I can't imagine the wild-ass US passing away gracefully in its sleep like a respectable state, CA probably would stick together, minus some rando secessionists in Jefferson. Something more violent and sudden, would lead to a lot of fracturing, but this would be country-wide.
I think the Midwest Heartland region is too generous, almost every state around the Great Lakes or connecting said states would be in and that would be it. People aren't going to join something they don't have a connection with historically. WI doesn't know nor care to know KS and vice-versa. The US was a prison. Anyway, the Great Lake country would probably get 'freedumbed' by the Canadians depending what happens just for that liquid gold.
I'd add WV, KS to the southern states, optionally split off TX, again depending on how/why balkanization.
The Mormon church could field a militia from its members in like a day. Utah would immediately seize parts of Arizona, Idaho, and Nevada to form a caliphate for Mormons (New Deseret).
California would have to recognize their independence and play nice with them to continue to get water from the rivers that flow through those states.
Yes, Mormons are supposed to stockpile in case of hardship too. You can go stores they set up (same with Amish/Mennonites) and get food in bulk for super cheap.
The Hawaiian natives that i've met were big fans of, if they could seperate, having the islands be an independent collective. It was really cool to speak with them.
I think some of those countries would break up further, like Texas, New Mexico and Hawaii I see easily being their own. Whenever I think of future balkanization the first state on my mind isn't Texas, but Hawaii. The Hawaiians I've spoken to are proud af of their state and have a pretty strong sense of belonging to it, even if they're outside of the native community, which surprised me. Seems, I'm not a local this is just a layperson's limited observations, I also dated a native for a while (who was of the 'oh yea Hawaii would totally be independent during a balkanization' mindset, back to my peoples' hands as it should be), so that biases me as well.
Having lived in CA a number of years, I think it'd split depending how/why we balkanize . Examples, us has a sudden rather non violent collapse for heck knows why, since I can't imagine the wild-ass US passing away gracefully in its sleep like a respectable state, CA probably would stick together, minus some rando secessionists in Jefferson. Something more violent and sudden, would lead to a lot of fracturing, but this would be country-wide.
I think the Midwest Heartland region is too generous, almost every state around the Great Lakes or connecting said states would be in and that would be it. People aren't going to join something they don't have a connection with historically. WI doesn't know nor care to know KS and vice-versa. The US was a prison. Anyway, the Great Lake country would probably get 'freedumbed' by the Canadians depending what happens just for that liquid gold.
I'd add WV, KS to the southern states, optionally split off TX, again depending on how/why balkanization.
I'd like to add on that Utah would also likely break off independently during an American balkanization. Mormons are shockingly organized.
The Mormon church could field a militia from its members in like a day. Utah would immediately seize parts of Arizona, Idaho, and Nevada to form a caliphate for Mormons (New Deseret).
California would have to recognize their independence and play nice with them to continue to get water from the rivers that flow through those states.
Yes, Mormons are supposed to stockpile in case of hardship too. You can go stores they set up (same with Amish/Mennonites) and get food in bulk for super cheap.
The Hawaiian natives that i've met were big fans of, if they could seperate, having the islands be an independent collective. It was really cool to speak with them.
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Independent collective but part of a mutual defense pact with other collectives would be rad.