DemSocs are great, but AOC is proving she's a western SocDem.

edit: death to the west :amerikkka:

  • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The top line of the statement expresses support for pro-regime change protests and parrots bogus claims about "anti-democracy activities" on the part of the Cuban government. Her statements about being against the embargo ring hollow after leading with that. This statement is still unfortunately imperialist dogshit, even with the full context.

    • Rojo27 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Exactly. She's doing the legwork for anyone that is going to make an argument against ending the embargo with her the first part of her statement.

      That's not without even taking into the account that she's practically spitting in the face of the majority of Cubans who support the government. Supporting the Cuban people also means supporting the government that they are behind. It doesn't have to be done explicitly.

      Most of us aren't expecting her to go out there and say that Diaz and the Cuban government have her full support. But feeding into the narrative that had been created isn't going to help much either. Had her statement omitted the first part it would have been fine.

      • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        So she doesn't want to end the embargo, yet she's emphatically calling for an end to the embargo?

        • Swoosegoose [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          She wants to end the embargo, yet she uncritically repeats the reasons the U.S uses to justify the embargo?

          • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            She obviously doesn't think those reasons justify the embargo, otherwise she wouldn't be calling for the end of it.

            • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Eh. I'm just commenting how, for as much as we all get up in arms about what she said or hypothetically should have said, it's all meaningless without the presence of enforceable party message discipline. She won't lose her DSA membership over this. She doesn't and never has had to answer to the party and its members about her public comments. That's regretable, and its's part of why stuff like this keeps happening.

              • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                Why would she lose her DSA membership over calling for an end to the Cuban embargo? That's what the left's been asking for since the embargo started!

                • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Because of the stuff she put in front of asking for the end of the embargo? Having a Party Line means having more control over messaging so you get more good stuff - like calling for the end of the embargo - and less bad stuff - like (maybe unintentionally) broadcasting imperialism.

        • Rojo27 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I didn't say she doesn't want to end the embargo. I'm saying that by feeding into the narrative she's make it easier for those who support the embargo to use her own words against her.

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            3 years ago

            "Sure they are eating babies but we shouldn't stop them because that would be worse" basically.