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  • snott_morrison [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I love how when you internalise the masovian socio-economics thought you lose Visual Calculus for it being reactionary lmao

  • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    This quest is definitely funny in terms of self deprecating lefty humor, but it's also IMO really touching.

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    The parts about Steban's mother working as an apartment cleaner and how her struggles as a prole push him to want to live in a better world, the idea that Communism has become a secular religion based around faith that humanity has a future, and of course the bit about the communist who wrote that poem on the last night of his life all hit me pretty hard. Plus, if you make the right choices, you can convince the two to ditch their secret passwords and actually try recruiting a broader range of people - they end up plastering the statue of that dipshit royal with recruitment posters, throwing a middle finger at the cruel old world to start taking steps to build a better one. There's a glimmer of hope that the two become more serious organizers and move on from just having a myopic book club.

    Yeah idk I just love this game. Also Steban's friend is definitely supposed to look like Trotsky right?

      • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago
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        Noooooo that stinks! As far as I remember the mercenary tribunal is a point of no return :( There’s always watching the rest of the vision quest on YouTube I suppose…

        On the plus side I really like the ending and hope you will too. But ya that sucks. :(

        Edit: slightly misread, thought you were about to finish the game but you actually did.

  • Bigbabyzeus [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I won DE and never even saw these characters?? Where/when is it?

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Those aren't entirely distinct ideologies from what I remember of DE. I remember moralism is a kind of surface level knee-jerk desire to be a good person, but it's also almost a religion that almost worships Dolores Dei. I had interpreted it as any sort of affectation of believing oneself to be above or beyond political ideology, which is really the heights of unexamined ideology. I think the line the game uses is "Moralists don't believe in anything. Sometimes they stumble across a belief, like a child's toy on the carpet."

          Also, since this game is amazing, all four of the political beliefs presented as coping mechanisms the main character goes through in order to better make sense of himself and his past. So they're all filtered through his own personal experiences and they're a fascinating portrayal of what kind of thought patterns can lead a person in different directions.

          • BelovedOldFriend [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I remember moralism is a kind of surface level knee-jerk desire to be a good person, but it’s also almost a religion that almost worships Dolores Dei.

            I think a big part of what they are is the fact that they're constantly chasing the past, trying to make the world great again like it was under Dolores Dei's reign.

            That in turn is a deep streak running thru Harry's life when we find him, considering that:

            1.) Moralism is in effect the current ruling ideology, seems to be popular amongst RCM, and is likely Harry's belief system, especially considering his reaction upon stepping into the church.

            2.) Harry is also chasing his own past.

            That said, maybe I should get thru the other political quests and compare before settling on any conclusions here.

  • Metalorg [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    That description hurt hard, except all that about books

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Is this from the new version? I played it when it first came out and never ran into them.

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    You didn’t have to come for me like that bro