Dark Knight Rises Bane struck me as this even at the time lmao
"We should overthrow the corrupt powers in Gotham City and restore power to the people but also I'm gonna set off a nuke in 3 months and kill everybody for some reason."
Dark Knight Rises was straight-up Old Money GOP propaganda. I mean, all the Dark Knight trilogy was kinda, but DKR completely dropped any pretense of being anything but that.
Yeah fair point, I remember the Dark Knight having a massive "Why the patriot act/constant police surveillance is good actually" subplot
the DoD and CIA effectively have script control over big-budget movies
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35521540-national-security-cinema
Zaheer in the legend of Korra - is an anarchist, tears down the walls separating the poor and rich, literally kills the queen - good 👍
Then he decides to kill Korra, end the avatar cycle and threaten to destroy the air nomads for good, because he's a crazy anarchist and that is all completely in line with crazy anarchism.
Nevermind that the air nomads are already essentially anarchists
Legend of Korra is just this. Equality is just a trick used to take power from the worthy, and is closely related to fascism from book one, environmentalism is evil because...idk they never really explained anything in season 2, anarchy is evil because it is just chaos, and fascism is actually not evil, just a reaction to unfair conditions and a result of anarchism. Kuvira's big evil wasn't the concentration camps, but an attack on a colony. JayandSkittles on youtube did a video series on this I find entertaining, the central thesis is that the makers of LoK wanted to talk politics and the conflicts of the 20th century, but didn't actually understand anything about that, so they just defaulted to "capitalist democracy good, everything else bad."
woke capitalism is too much for chuds, they would die the moment they were exposed to actual progress.
Also Asami is a girlboss capitalist who inherited all her wealth from her fascist father, but it's ok because she's gay
the air nomads are already essentially anarchists
Uhhh, not quite. They're a strict religious hierarchy with sometimes oppressive social expectations.
I still can’t believe they made a movie called “Black Panther” where the villains where literally the actual Black Panthers and one of the heroes was a CIA agent.
The afro-futurism was great, but the state department gloating that ran throughout the film was overkill.
The Black Panther's name predates the October 1966 founding of the Black Panther Party, though not the black panther logo of the party's predecessor, the Lowndes County Freedom Organization (LCFO), nor the segregated World War II 761st "Black Panthers" Tank Battalion.[2][3] Co-creator Stan Lee denied that the comic, which pre-dates the political usage of the term, was, or could have been, named after any of the political uses of the term "black panther", including the LCFO, citing "a strange coincidence".[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_(character)
For what it's worth.
Notice how so many liberals critique leftists as just being angry white men or whinging black men and gloss over any other parts of the movements. That tumblr post about "sure he reads theory, but does he do the dishes?" which is just someone going "I wouldn't date him/live with him, therefore his politics are bad."
“sure he reads theory, but does he do the dishes?"
Can't believe there's people seriously asking "who does the dishes after the revolution?"
I do my own dishes now, I'll do my own dishes then
imagine your personal life is more important than the political structure manipulating everyone's daily life. You are now thinking as liberals do.
I will make delicious food for anyone that's willing to clean up after. Boom communism achieved.
Lol I've also been noticing this.
"This world is evil and corrupt, I hate it!"
Me: yeah this place seems pretty fucked up
"I will genocide everyone"
Me: oh
There's at least 5k youtube videos about grown up weirdos analizing and discussing how some stupid cartoon they watched with 7 years old shaped their whole world view.
That 2-hour Lindsay Ellis Paw Patrol deep dive was an eldritch horror unto itself.
They can still take bad messages away. And we know kid stuff can resonate with people throughout their lifetimes -- look at the adult market for "kid" media today.
a whole generation of Harry P*tter libs solidifies your theory as well.
"Politically I identify with spiderman's approach, just help out where you can in your community, but sometimes I can be a little Loki cuz I want to rule the world and I speak fluent sarcasm 😈"
Which is ironic with the whole Vietnam vs America angle of the original trilogy
Falcon and the Winter Solder was so bad for this. The villain is by far the most sympathetic character, all she wants is a world with out borders (something that had already happened in universe) and to be able take care of the huge displaced population. Falcon even agrees with her on like everything. But she has to be the bad guy so for no fucking reason and almost totally out of character she blows up a building with people in it ( the people were basically cops though so that hardly makes her a bad guy)
But she has to be the bad guy so for no fucking reason and almost totally out of character she blows up a building with people in it ( the people were basically cops though so that hardly makes her a bad guy)
The thing that really pissed me off about that bit was that we had just seen how those people holding back supplies and food were resulting in the refugees dying. Her mother figure / friend that passed, died of tuberculosis from the conditions the refugees were subject to. But because it wasn't direct visible physical violence, Karli's actions weren't framed as a defensive move against the oppressors that killed her friend and were going to continue harming the remaining refugees.
It’s pretty weird. Like without our benevolent king, psycho radicals will kill us all. I expected better from Coogler, though it’s possible this was all he could get away with.
On the flip side of the sympathetic marvel villain spectrum tho, we have Thanos with his goofy ass universal Malthusian shit. I feel MCU nerds tend to be way more sympathetic to him, with many unironically buying into the “thanos did nothing wrong” meme. Just goes to show Disney’s and their fans’ priorities I guess. :what-the-hell:
They named him Killmonger, like that's a parody of something you'd name a villain, just so the audience knows he's bad. Might as well have named him Badguy McGenocide.
It would be boring as hell. It would just be super powered people farming really fast and stuff
All of Hollywood is white propaganda, no exceptions
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5626512
I've been marathoning "The West Wing Thing" podcast for the last few weeks.
The hosts are both US screen writers and they like to mention how, in the writers room, sometimes they'll put the best arguments (or ideals the writers are cool with) in the mouths of the villains because they know they can't get away with making the heroes say them.
