Ok real talk, what happens if the US decides to invade Cuba tomorrow? They're been agitating for weeks to get the population on board, and the media has thus far been all too happy to help wag the dog. The sanctions have really started to hurt the island in earnest over the past year - otherwise the anti-government protests wouldn't have happened - and the announced new sanctions will only serve to turn the screw further. The realpolitik version is to just continue to wait it out until the situation gets dire.
But there's enough bloodthirsty hawks, and Biden would need some win to distract from the fact that he's doing fuck-all leading into midterms, that there's a non-zero chance that the US looks to more direct regime change. It definitely feels more and more like a possibility recently, and not through landing out of shape gusanos on a beach this time. What happens? How does that look? There's no USSR to offset a threat of invasion, and I can't see anybody else in the global community going to bat for Cuba beyond some furrowed brows if Biden decides he needs to reinvigorate the American hegemony.
Literally the least he could do. Just "return to normal". But he won't because he actually likes what trump did and likes that useful idiots like yourself will go to bat for him saying it's okay he's not hitting the breaks because he didn't start the car.
for real though, if biden were any better on FP than trump he would have reinstated the (minor) good things obama did, like slightly easing the imperialist pressure the US puts on Cuba and Iran
That and moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Biden and Trump's foreign policy have the same motivations (increasing U.S. and capitalist hegemony) but Trump is also batshit insane and didn't have to try and appease SocDems, meaning that he could pretty much get away with anything. Having a cult helps too.
The best that China can do is to discreetly provide Cuba with material support and supplies. I hope they're quietly helping the Cubans stock up on guns and ammo.
I just want to point out that there are Kennedy tapes saying that they're willing to bomb Cuba in the same way they bombed Indochina, which can be significantly worse since Cuba is literally a stone's throw away from all of America's major military installations and supply hubs.
There might not be a Cuban people if the Feds get to unleash the 50 years of pent-up hate on them.
My own, completely uneducated, guess is that a US invasion would result in a US puppet government being installed in a green zone in Havana while the legitimate government wages a prolonged guerilla war from the jungle.
The Cuban people will suffer immensely, gusanos will come back and be awarded their grandparents' old properties and Cuba will be remade in the image of Haiti. Healthcare will be privatised, neighbourhoods will be gentrified and the people displaced.
Eventually the US will become sick and tired of the endless war and leave, opening the possibility of a return to power for the legitimate government.
But there’s enough bloodthirsty hawks, and Biden would need some win to distract from the fact that he’s doing fuck-all leading into midterms
I don’t see how the invasion of Cuba will help him lmao Republicans will never vote for you, and some Democrats will be put off. This is a galaxy brain move if he think this will help him rather than simply making MJ legal or eliminating student debt. After Afghanistan and Iraq, I’m almost positive the amount of people who are tired of war is 60-40 in this counry, but who the fuck knows with quarantine frying the few brain cells Americans had left.
Well exactly, I'm not suggesting it would be a good move. But imagine this - Dems get their well-deserved lashing in the midterms, Biden hasnt passed any meaningful legislation and now can't with Repubs controlling the legislature. With 2024 creeping up, some ghouls could make the calculation that an invasion "shows leadership", would unite the country in bipartisan bloodlust, and potentially allow them to win Florida by playing to the gusanos. Biden hasn't shown any interest in constructive legislation so far, and with nearly 3 additional years between now and then to manufacture consent, I could see it happening. Iraq wasn't popular at the time of invasion, either.
I'll admit that this headline made my heart skip a beat thinking about the idea that the US might actually do it.
However, I feel like Bidens liberal instincts to not actually do anything will win out. It's easy to have the CIA churn up some protests and bluster "commies bad" on the news. But actual boots on the ground action? I don't see it. Especially in Cuba where it will turn into a slog of guerrilla warfare because no Cubans want the US there.
Ok real talk, what happens if the US decides to invade Cuba tomorrow? They're been agitating for weeks to get the population on board, and the media has thus far been all too happy to help wag the dog. The sanctions have really started to hurt the island in earnest over the past year - otherwise the anti-government protests wouldn't have happened - and the announced new sanctions will only serve to turn the screw further. The realpolitik version is to just continue to wait it out until the situation gets dire.
But there's enough bloodthirsty hawks, and Biden would need some win to distract from the fact that he's doing fuck-all leading into midterms, that there's a non-zero chance that the US looks to more direct regime change. It definitely feels more and more like a possibility recently, and not through landing out of shape gusanos on a beach this time. What happens? How does that look? There's no USSR to offset a threat of invasion, and I can't see anybody else in the global community going to bat for Cuba beyond some furrowed brows if Biden decides he needs to reinvigorate the American hegemony.
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You think he’s worse than Trump so far? That’s a bit much.
In terms of foreign policy, right now I think Trump and Biden are a push.
Nah. People really ready to forget all about Soleimani.
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the treaty that Trump broke away from lol
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This is so fucking stupid lmao
Why is it stupid? On a FP level, it at least shows that Biden is no different than Trump. Doesn't seem like an outlandish observation to me
Literally the least he could do. Just "return to normal". But he won't because he actually likes what trump did and likes that useful idiots like yourself will go to bat for him saying it's okay he's not hitting the breaks because he didn't start the car.
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living up to your username lmfao
for real though, if biden were any better on FP than trump he would have reinstated the (minor) good things obama did, like slightly easing the imperialist pressure the US puts on Cuba and Iran
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Okay but the thawing of tensions between the Koreas.
That and moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Biden and Trump's foreign policy have the same motivations (increasing U.S. and capitalist hegemony) but Trump is also batshit insane and didn't have to try and appease SocDems, meaning that he could pretty much get away with anything. Having a cult helps too.
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I stan China but I would not expect them to do anything if the US invades Cuba.
I doubt it. China is strictly anti-interventionism
If China directly intervened that could very easily escalate to world war 3 and the use of nuclear weapons.
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The best that China can do is to discreetly provide Cuba with material support and supplies. I hope they're quietly helping the Cubans stock up on guns and ammo.
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years of guerrilla warfare. but when has a jungle insurgency ever been a problem for the US military? :uncle-ho-2:
I just want to point out that there are Kennedy tapes saying that they're willing to bomb Cuba in the same way they bombed Indochina, which can be significantly worse since Cuba is literally a stone's throw away from all of America's major military installations and supply hubs.
There might not be a Cuban people if the Feds get to unleash the 50 years of pent-up hate on them.
very true, short distance would make it vastly easier to maintain supply lines
My own, completely uneducated, guess is that a US invasion would result in a US puppet government being installed in a green zone in Havana while the legitimate government wages a prolonged guerilla war from the jungle.
The Cuban people will suffer immensely, gusanos will come back and be awarded their grandparents' old properties and Cuba will be remade in the image of Haiti. Healthcare will be privatised, neighbourhoods will be gentrified and the people displaced.
Eventually the US will become sick and tired of the endless war and leave, opening the possibility of a return to power for the legitimate government.
I don’t see how the invasion of Cuba will help him lmao Republicans will never vote for you, and some Democrats will be put off. This is a galaxy brain move if he think this will help him rather than simply making MJ legal or eliminating student debt. After Afghanistan and Iraq, I’m almost positive the amount of people who are tired of war is 60-40 in this counry, but who the fuck knows with quarantine frying the few brain cells Americans had left.
Well exactly, I'm not suggesting it would be a good move. But imagine this - Dems get their well-deserved lashing in the midterms, Biden hasnt passed any meaningful legislation and now can't with Repubs controlling the legislature. With 2024 creeping up, some ghouls could make the calculation that an invasion "shows leadership", would unite the country in bipartisan bloodlust, and potentially allow them to win Florida by playing to the gusanos. Biden hasn't shown any interest in constructive legislation so far, and with nearly 3 additional years between now and then to manufacture consent, I could see it happening. Iraq wasn't popular at the time of invasion, either.
I'll admit that this headline made my heart skip a beat thinking about the idea that the US might actually do it.
However, I feel like Bidens liberal instincts to not actually do anything will win out. It's easy to have the CIA churn up some protests and bluster "commies bad" on the news. But actual boots on the ground action? I don't see it. Especially in Cuba where it will turn into a slog of guerrilla warfare because no Cubans want the US there.
It wouldn't look like an invasion. They'd pay a columbian PMC to pose as the "free cuban army" or whatever while bombing the shit out of the country.
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