I've been a longtime fan of rimworld and the new dlc, ideology, came out. I have a major problem with its handling of real world religions, my religion of Islam as well as others like Christianity, Hinduism, and Buddhism are featured as game mechanics and factions. They all have randomized names like the blue Islam cannibalism cult or the buddhist people's nudist temple. I find it pretty offensive that I would have to fight other muslim factions in game and these factions often have beliefs (called memes in game) that are just contradictory to what Islam actually practices. When I bought this I was expecting something a little more secular. I wouldn't have bought this knowing how my religion is treated as a tasteless game mechanic. I'm not gonna play rimworld again unless there's a patch that removes all references to real world religions. Islam doesn't need to featured in a game where the primary mechanics are death camps and cannibalism, it's absolutely not okay.

Lol https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2553766942

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Lol https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2553766942

    Removes real religions

    Adds Pastafarianism

    calling pastafarianism not real? big cringe

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, I don't blame them, using real religions was pretty tasteless

        But calling pastafarianism not real is where I draw the fuckin line 😤😤😤

        • epicgamer666 [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          I have nothing against pastafarianism, I know nothing about it and have no idea why a mod replacing real religions with fake ones would use it.

  • Woly [any]
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    3 years ago

    Rimworld is a Dwarf Fortress ripoff without any tact, change my mind.

    • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      it's openly inspired by, but that doesn't make it a 'ripoff'. they focus on different things, DF is more about a huge fortress and the grand narrative of that in a large living world, while RW is a lot more about the individuals and the struggle of building a small community. they also play very differently in terms of combat and other mechanics. as for tact, honestly they're both as bad as each other on the absurd and edgy things players do

      • Woly [any]
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        3 years ago

        Damn you might have actually changed my mind

    • epicgamer666 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I like both, rimworld is definitely the better of the two. But the fanbases, they're almost as bad as the fallout or hearts of iron franchises in term of chuds.

      • Woly [any]
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        3 years ago

        The nice thing about dwarf fortress fanatics is that there are so few of them you can basically live your life without running into one

      • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Of recent, a good amount of people on the DF sub tend towards leftism and shit. Toady himself came out in favor of the Floyd protests IIRC. But yeah I imagine like HOI theres very few people in between.

      • Woly [any]
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        3 years ago

        I don't like dwarf fortress

        :disgost:

          • Woly [any]
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            3 years ago

            What, you don't like learning an entire programming language just to play a video game?

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I had the same yikes reaction when I saw the just overt use of actual real world religions too. like you can do the Dune thing where things are clearly inspired by and so on, but just using them outright especially in a game like that where doing fucked up things is half the mechanics is always going to look crass as fuck. why did this need to be int he game? it didn't, there is no reason other than not giving a shit about peoples real world faiths, and how that affects players with those faiths and how others see them because of the game

    • epicgamer666 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I've seen the shit people have done with dwarf fortress, not good shit. I fear that giving people a sandbox to make ideological cults just opened pandora's box. Like at least their was a degree of separation from reality before this dlc, not anymore.

      • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        right, it's one thing to say like "haha, my colonists are cannibals who enslave people" vs "my Islamic community in this game are cannibals who enslave people". there's an abstraction there, a disconnect from implications on real world humans, and you yourself have shown this does impact the people whos faiths are being depicted. if somebody wants to RP as a fucked up racist version of Islam, you can't stop them, but to make that a mechanic that is right there at the creation screen of the ideologies and to have it occur naturally in the game with AI factions is clearly inviting people to do that and normalise that portrail

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I'd be willing to bet it's 100% because the devs saw CK3's custom religion system and just ripped it off wholesale "adapted it to fit rimworld." Like it's entirely just CK3's system: you select type, big theme cards, and set up the tenets, and they didn't even bother to think up new base types for everything they just literally took the religions from CK3 and added a few of their own.

    And that's even before you get into what a brainworm infested trainwreck the "memes" are.

  • Abraxiel
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    3 years ago

    Just a straight unforced error.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I assume the even the devs realised that "haha my jews do the blood libel" was a bit cringe and didn't extrapolate.

    • flowernet [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      since Blue Islam is a randomized name, I think they're taking inspiration from the Orange Catholic Church in Dune. Funnily enough, Judaism continues to be practiced normally by small communities of people in the Dune Universe.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Judaism continues to be practiced normally by small communities of people in the Dune Universe

        Cause the writer was weird religious weeb AF.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    the primary mechanics are death camps and cannibalism

    I have dozens of hours in Rimworld and these have literally never happened in my games.