"I agree with your views, just not your methods"
Shut the fuck, "hero".
If you hold beliefs but do not act on them then you do not truly hold those beliefs.
This shit sucked in Legend of Korra. There was always a stupid middle ground that never fixed anything because the bad guys "went too far". Season 1 literally ends with a :vote: and a non-bender becomes the President instead of a council of benders, wow. Please ignore that literally every single police officer in the show is a bender anyway.
First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
Dany in Game of Thrones season 8
Dolores in Westworld season 2
Seasons 1 and 3 of Korra
The bad guy in Aquaman
The revolutionaries in The Expanse
Kilmonger in Black Panther
The Eco-Anarchists in the new Captain America show
Bet good money on this happening in The Boys season 3 or 4.
Dolores in Westworld season 2
Refresh me on this one because season two was a while back and also occurred in non-linear time.
Season 1 is all about how Dolores and the other robots are sentient, and how they'd be completely in the right to rebel against their oppressors in the name of liberating the robots.
Season 2 opens with Dolores going on some edge-lord screed about how only the strongest robots shall inherit the Earth and the weak must be culled. She goes from revolutionary to full-fash in a heartbeat because the creators don't actually want to depict a metaphorical worker's uprising.
I somehow blocked that bit out in favor of remembering only that glorious scene of her on horseback running down some tuxedo-clad dipshits. I guess I should re-watch that season at some point.
As a bass player in a moderately successful band, I'm not sure how to feel about this.
They dragon woman in GoT was punished for doing objectively good things until randomly committing a genocide that was entirely out of character, or so I've heard. If I got a detail wrong, it's cause I watched the first episode and decided the show sucked, then everyone else caught up with me after finishing.
GRRM was probably going to write an awesome explanation and make it deep and meaningful and show it about to happen and make it totally freaking awesome to watch.
In the TV seasons covering what GRRM has not yet written, she did it for literally no reason at all and you're checking your watch wondering when this confusing scene is about to end.
like it is not really "out of character" as much as they did it bad because at least from the books i do not see a problem on dany being insane as the whole bit of her familly is that they are either briliant or insane, and dany kinda solves most of her problems with dragon fire during the plot, like at least the books iirc do a way better work of making dany more of an unstable person in her chapters
I think, if I had a dragon and wanted to conquer a few continents, I also would solve most of my problems with dragon fire. Air support can completely dominate almost any battle if used effectively.
I watched the first episode and decided the show sucked
S1 was slow and boring, had tons of random sex scenes for literally no reason, so while it gets better and "starts to add up", you essentially saved yourself from the 120mph brick wall ending, which was terrible.
I really hate shows that depend on sex scenes to hook viewers. Like, I can just watch porn, I'm here to watch a TV show.
Specifically she freed all the slaves she could and basically built a coalition of former slaves as her advisors while crucifying slave owners
Then she “went mad” and decided actually she needs to genocide all the stupid commoners instead just because one of her dragons got killed
I've never watched and never will watch that series
it just looked like mediocre cosplay back in 2014 so I never watched it, also fantasy genre is tired as fug
You would think. That was what was so great about GOT at the beginning (and the books throughout) - it eschewed so many of the tropes. It was as much a political thriller as it was a fantasy. Really great stuff.
Theeeeeen the show runners ran out of material to adapt and started huffing their own farts full time. Season 5 onward was a slow decent, but WOW what a firey crash by the end.
I too want the next MCU movie to be the avengers going to trial for war crimes
Danaeres story was so orientalist that her 'turn' made me think that there was a deconstruction hidden there that got lost in adaptation.
I think at that point GRRM never actually wrote the books for the last few seasons (fans are still waiting lol) but be might have said what he was going to do in those books to the TV show writers. But since it was never fleshed out, the TV show writers apparently decided to make the last few seasons "not fleshed out". Or, they just weren't capable of original writing that wasn't copying the (allegedly good) source material.
Or, they just weren’t capable of original writing that wasn’t copying the (allegedly good) source material.
That's pretty much it. They got a lot of praise for doing a pretty faithful adaptation of a series that overall is not only competently written but also does a good job of telling a whole lot of extra stories at once without actually doing so through mentions of things that are happening or did happen (that is to say it gives a very good impression of an actual world that keeps turning even when the protagonists aren't looking and even in places they've never heard of before), and which largely broke the mold for fantasy stories in a way that wasn't explicitly chauvinist like the Wheel of Time.
And that praise went to their heads and so they started writing more of their own content and doing more of that awful "alright here's an actor woodenly reading off a few pages of backstory while literal softcore porn plays out in the room" thing that critics praised them for, and every single bit of original content that went beyond a line or two of witty dialogue added to an existing conversation generally made no sense and actively punched gaping holes in the plot so when they ran out of book and had only a vague idea where to go they just kept running with it and revealed that they were in fact absolute hacks all along.
As for the books themselves, it's hard to tell where Dany's story is actually supposed to be going, because it's following a bunch of different trains of thought that actively contradict one another: you've got a strong core point that one can't just waltz in as an outsider and fix a brutally fucked up system overnight, and it shows that when you collaborate with aristocrats and slavers for mild reforms all you get is a White Terror happening in the background, but then it also tries to make a point that you can't just butcher all the aristocrats and slavers and elevate the former slaves to rule themselves because then "they'll just start butchering each other too and they don't know how to do logistics or lead or something, idk" which is either peak liberal brainworms or a pretty accurate assessment of what happens when power is upturned without a solid ideological and material framework for reorganizing society to be more equitable (such as the French Revolution pivoting away from a mass movement to a liberal dictatorship with a new aristocracy and an elevated bourgeoisie).
