I met some long time friends for pizza and beer tonight and i thought it was a fun night but right before we parted ways the two of them held an intervention with me. They said i was bringing up "socialist stuff" too much and it was making them depressed. They said to keep the conversation exclusively to things like games and anime. That if i didnt stop they didnt want to be friends anymore. Have you guys/gals/nonbinary pals experienced something like this before?

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah. A couple army friends that became cops do not talk to me anymore. Friend from high school became one too and said I was “on the wrong side of history” for being anti cop and a communist. Family too have told me I “think too much” and have “gone off the deep end” because I apply a dialectical/historical materialism analysis on everything now.

    At this point I don’t care or mind anymore. The work I do trying to organize and party build is more important than relationships based on being born in a certain area, the imperialist military, and some stemming from blood.

    • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Friend from high school became one too and said I was “on the wrong side of history” for being anti cop and a communist

      lmao essentially my experience

      • RedArmor [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        “Go on a ride along with me and you’ll see what I deal with every night.” I asked if I could bring my gun for protection for other people against him and he shut that down real fast.

        And he is mixed Hispanic and a decent chunk Native American. So it just even more so is like wtf? No understanding of history or materialism at all

        • panopticon [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          I've run into fascist army types who are black and indigenous, they joined the army hoping to police the border with machine guns. People often think imperialism, white supremacy, etc are one sided, but it's more like a ladder. Conservatives love hierarchy.

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      1 year ago

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    • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      The work I do trying to organize and party build is more important than relationships based on being born in a certain area, the imperialist military, and some stemming from blood.

      It's certainly important, but try to not lose your family. You've only got one, and whatever political disagreements you've had with them, there will quite certainly always remain a certain love for you inside of them.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I'd be careful with this feel good logic, there is quite a difference between cutting relations with a distant reactionary cousin and versus your boomer parents for example. Everyone has their own circumstances but don't put too much faith that fragile family relationships are worth your trouble, if anything I'd say that is just a path to holding yourself hostage to them and their views.

        • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          as someone with plenty of dysfunction in the family, I've gotten a lot out of the subverted trope:

          "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb." (the family we forge in life is worth more than the one we are born into).

        • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          there is quite a difference between cutting relations with a distant reactionary cousin and versus your boomer parents for example.

          Sure, that's true. I assumed he was talking abouthis close relatives.

          I do think that the idea that we can easily cut people from our lives (like is propagated in r/relationship_advise, for example, but which is spread much broader), is a sign of something unhealthy. We're social animals, it's not normal behaviour for us to just cut people away like it's nothing. It's a sign of a form of stress and alienation of our natural behaviour, imposed on us by the harsh conditions of capitalist relations of production.