What are your thoughts on Atlantropa? I haven't really thought about the implications or consequences, I just think we should do it because it would be cool as fuck

  • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    This would destroy coastal ecosystems, fishing villages, and a lot of the tourism economy.

    But it would also make Gaza bigger so who's to say.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Looks like there would be a massive power struggle between Greece and Turkey for control of that new archipelago, NATO might collapse in on itself as 2 members go to war. Would be sick.

  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    Everyone would die from this and the toxic dust blowing from the dried up salt flats that used to be the Mediterranean while also destroying a massive amount of the marine and terrestrial ecosystems of Europe, Africa, The Middle East and Asia.

    • moonlake [he/him]
      hexagon
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      10 months ago

      ok but have you considered that it would also be cool as fuck?

      • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        Itd actually be cringe and bad as fuck and you’re probably a liberal for suggesting this

        I bet you voted for Kamala Harris in 2016

        • moonlake [he/him]
          hexagon
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          10 months ago

          You are goddamn right that I voted for Kamala Harris in 2016 and I will do it again in 2024. She is the only one who can wield the power of Venn Diagrams in order to heal America

  • RedDawn [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Just reading the Wikipedia article it seems like the idea is for Europe to unite to colonize Africa and this massive engineering project is just a part of that goal, so I don't like it.

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    10 months ago

    It would absolutely completely fuck with weather patterns.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    What are the ecological impacts of blocking the migration of sea animals?

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      10 months ago

      takes more money than ww2 and benefits no-body. it's brilliant

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        I'm sure it will cause some form of ecological catastrophe as well although I don't know how exactly how but I do know that a hard engineering project of that scale is bound to fuck something up

  • mechwarrior2 [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    This is like trying to reverse the zanclean flood so you can do more grandiose neocolonialism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanclean_flood

    One thing that could be cool I guess is that the land reclamation could expose sites of archeological interest that teach us more about the early hominids that lived in that period

  • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    Wait, that's not how canals work, the water can't flow up a canal from 200m below.

    • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Two rivers flow into the Venice lagoon, the Sile and the Brenta. So as long as you balanced the outflow through the canal, the lagoon wouldn't dry up, but it would turn into freshwater and totally change the largest wetland ecosystem in the Mediterranean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Lagoon

      You'd still need to go through 200m of locks to get from the port of Venice to the Atlantic. For reference, the locks at the Three Gorges Dam have an elevation change of 113m. Edit: actually the canal might have a gentle enough slope that you wouldn't need that many locks, it would basically be an artificial river.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    It'll probably be an unmitigated ecological disaster but, on the other hand, there's a Berlin-Capetown railway so... Critical support?

  • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Of course there's a Tom Scott video about it: https://youtu.be/TEdsQmjLMKs?si=9GxfhYhYQMxPPISI

    Also, part of this plan was to create huge artificial lakes in Africa: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F1qgx9fzz0uvz.png

  • mayo_cider [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    We should turn Mediterranean sea and Arctic ocean into one