nitter

Alt Text:

Cenk Uygur @cenkuygur 3h Can everyone please stop the dumb "from the river to the sea" chant? It is incredibly hurtful to our Jewish brothers and sisters. It's also incredibly counterproductive to protecting Palestinians. Do not chant something that majority thinks is call for genocide. Not complicated. Dec 11, 2023 · 11:09 PM UTC

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
    ·
    1 year ago

    Not too long ago I was at a pro-Palestine protest where members of Jewish Voice For Peace were gladly joining along with "From the river to the sea" chants

    So shut the fuck up Cenk

    • VILenin [he/him]M
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Umm ackshually those weren’t true Jews. You might not know this but the Netanyahu is actually the Jewish pope and revoked their Jewishness.

    • KiraChats [she/her, they/them]
      hexagon
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      the same logic that earned him a whopping 5% of the vote in 2020 when he ran for congress

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
        ·
        1 year ago

        It's genuinely hilarious he's running for president. Like people either have no idea who he is or are so terminally lib brained they're definitely voting for Biden anyways.

          • mkultrawide [any]
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Hasan said on the latest Patreon episode of Fear& that no one (Cenk and the family) thinks he is going to win and that the point of him running is that, if he gains any traction at all, Democrats are going to have to admit they need to replace Biden with someone else.

              • mkultrawide [any]
                ·
                1 year ago

                Hasan did call his family crazy for thinking Cenk has a shot at all lol

              • Adkml [he/him]
                ·
                1 year ago

                Yea just like if insert popular movie star here suddenly starts wanting to date me im going to tell her I need more time to focus on my personal projects

              • riseuppikmin [he/him]
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                He was and is not eligible under current laws (as he has been told repeatedly by state election officials). The only good thing to possibly come out of this campaign is getting that law changed, but don't hold your breath because burgerland is way too fucking racist on aggregate to possibly tackle that.

              • mkultrawide [any]
                ·
                1 year ago

                I think it's one of those things where he could run but legally he can't be president. I have no idea honestly. It was a blip in conversation about how Gruesome Gavin should run because he's hot and who the hottest president was.

              • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                his argument iirc is that that clause should be considered overturned by the 14th amendment (?) which guaranteed equal protection under the law to naturalized citizens or something.

                He also cited like 4 other examples of people being elected despite having outright fake or tenuous claims to being born here

            • jonne@infosec.pub
              ·
              1 year ago

              Isn't that basically why Marianne Williamson is running? She's polling way higher than Cenk ever would and the media are happy to pretend she's not running.

            • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              if he gains any traction at all, Democrats are going to have to admit they need to replace Biden with someone else.

              Imagine being such a bootlicking loser that the only reason you spend tons of money running for president is so that 'your' party maybe concedes that their candidate sucks.

              And replace Biden with what, exactly? Some other hollowed out husk of a human that has 97% of the same views Biden does?

              Joe Biden is a liberal, maybe THE liberal; he IS 'your team'.

            • Adkml [he/him]
              ·
              1 year ago

              There's half a dozen other candidates who would already prove that and they're all left of this dumbass.

              If he somehow found a genie in abotlle and started polling above 10% he'd start telling his followers that they need to drop it get serious and start supportung Biden.

              Exactly like he did on the verge of crocodile tears with Hillary in 2016.

      • jonne@infosec.pub
        ·
        1 year ago

        I guess that's what happens when you don't get the Armenian vote because you don't think their genocide was real either.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
        ·
        1 year ago

        That shit was pathetic. It would have been smarter for him to go more local and run for a spot on a school board or the LA city council. Probably would have had more success too if his enormous ego didn't get in the way.

        • Adkml [he/him]
          ·
          1 year ago

          It's literally the stereotype of somebody wasting their time on electoralism.

          Let's start a campaign for president where I get less than 1% of the vote instead of doing anything that literally anyone could argue might have some potential value.

  • Kuori [she/her]
    ·
    1 year ago

    says the man who named his propaganda outfit after a group that famously committed multiple genocides

      • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]
        ·
        1 year ago

        I mean, there's a clothing store in the US called "Banana Republic". Is that a bad look? Sure, to people like us, who know. But at a certain point your brand surpasses the original atrocity it's associated with in the cultural memory and no one cares.

      • Kuori [she/her]
        ·
        1 year ago

        seems like he just loves a good bit of genocide

  • emizeko [they/them]
    ·
    1 year ago

    @marinadove.bsky.social:

    ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME YOU NAMED YOUR SHOW AFTER THE ARCHITECTS OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE YOU SICK MISERABLE BROKE FUCKING LOSER

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
    ·
    1 year ago

    I love how libs will insist everything is "complicated" except for defense of atrocities. Defending atrocities is the only non-complicated thing in the world and they are gobsmacked whenever others express those strange things called "morals."

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
      ·
      1 year ago

      Guy who started an organization called "The Young Turks" maybe isn't going to have the best anti-genocidal politics.

  • Munrock ☭@lemmygrad.ml
    ·
    1 year ago

    First "that phrase is a call for genocide because we said so" combined with the more recent "maybe we should stop calling everything 'genocide'" whenever anyone describes what Israel is doing.

    Utterly cooked.

  • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    "It's also incredibly counterproductive to protecting Palestinians." nerd

    You see the reactionary brain pan is inherently violent and will commit atrocities at the slightest provocation.

    • huf [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      yeah, if the chant had been "peaceful and reasonable accommodation with the state of israel", they would've called that a genocidal chant. there's no point.

    • EpicKebabEater [he/him, it/its]
      ·
      1 year ago

      He gets that. His entire schtick about trans people has been complaining how everything trans people do is too far actually. He understands it well and exploits it for every cause he doesn't like but is too cowardly to badmouth openly.

  • D61 [any]
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Israel doesn't equal Jews, Cenk.

    • Adkml [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      It does according to 90% of elected officials from both parties in this country. Clearly he's running to make that number 91%.

    • Adkml [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      Gonna go ahead and say the guy with the media empire called the young turks is being disingenuous when he's complaining how bad seeming to support genocide can be for your messaging.