:AyyyyyOC: "i want the socialism of britain and scandinavia"

  • Sacred_Excrement [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Hey Europe, how are you doing?

    :yea:

    More seriously, as other people have pointed out, we're only seeing a few million refugees that are resulting in Europe and American going outright ultranationalist. What's going to happen in a few decades when we see tens of millions fleeing?

    • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I've been beating that drum for a long time, since 2014. what are we going to see as more and more Indian harvests fail due to soil erosion, erratic weather, and ethnic violence. what about when North Africa and the Middle east get too hot to live in, we already saw Iraq hit 54c a couple years ago. what about when the water wars start and the violence forces people to flee. there are going to be so many refugees. and then when the pandemics come from melting permafrost that was keeping bacteria frozen in there dormant, or we get more mutations of things like covid, giving the fash carte Blanche reason to 'keep us safe' by stopping the refugees. things are going to get fucking ugly. and that's when this whole shit about the 5th column boils over and the genocide starts, the seeds are being laid right now in policy that dehumanises and otherises refugees

      • Sacred_Excrement [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeaaaahhhhh...I feel it could go 1 of 2 ways, essentially:

        Either the ensuing chaos over the next few decades, as the contradictions in capitalism become more clear, result in western society having a seismic shift leftward in favor of human rights/worker rights/etc, we do all we can to combat climate change and aid countries suffering the worst effects while taking in their people as needed

        or

        We militarize further, double down on the dehumanization of minorities/foreigners, and ramp up efforts to destabilize stable leftist powers which pose a threat to the capitalist paradigm, while also attempting to supplant leaders in countries suffering most severely from those crises in order to get them to force their people to stay (and/or kill them).

        I'm not gonna say which I think is more likely.

        • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I think a little of column a a little of column b. the reaching hand of empire has taken so many Ls of late and is high as a kite on copium, but does not seem to have the organisation or capacity to even hold onto places in their own 'back yard'. capitalism will continue its decay, as will all the institutions of the imperial core that give us our luxury filled lives, this will be blamed on refugees and foreign powers such as china iran ect you know the usual line up.

          I expect the imperial core to more retreat inward and consume itself, as the US has already started doing, rather than reach out to grab more resources. the capacity for empire is completely collapsing, and the anti imperialist wave only grows more and more as China allows for an alternative multi polar world that they will absolutely happily trade with to facilitate an independence from the US bloc.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I'm very pessimistic about this development. There is no more welfare to distribute so the driving force of most European politics becomes "cultural" issues of which an ever accelerating racism is the dominant.

        Europe hasn't done it's last genocide yet.

        • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Europe hasn't stopped doing genocide ever. the denial now of refuge to so many drowning people is an act of genocide in my honest opinion. it is willing letting an ethnic group they dislike struggle and die because of there inherent racial characteristics, en masse. this is going to turn inwards as that dehumanisation goes further, and violence against brown bodies is more and more seen as a solution to the problem. at the moment it's still seen as unacceptable to murder you own population openly, you have to do it via covid and shit. but I don't think that will happen forever.

          eventually we're going to hear about how refugee women have too many babies, and it's just unsafe to let them because we need to think of resource shortages. then it's going to be that they can't be trusted and are fighting the interests of the nation and the native people to be greedy and 'steal' 'our' resources for their own. and then it's going to be the 'final solution' to the problem of all the refugees created by imperialist and capitalist policy for 70 years since decolonisation. the extrapolation of current rhetoric already there is all this needs, and the material conditions will fund it.

          if you want to stop it, community defense, antifascist organising, anti racist coalitions, this is what we need to build to fight for our fellow workers the fascists want to kill

          • SoyViking [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            FYI the Danish government is working on outsourcing its asylum system by creating a refugee camp in Rwanda, inspired by Australia's concentration camps in Nauru and Manus Island.