Yes.
Excerpt:
Texas doesn’t have statewide guidelines for critical care and triage, which means that caregivers are left to their own local organizing. But tough times like the ones brought on by low vaccination rates and the delta variant require a re-examination of priors. This fourth wave of Covid hospitalizations differs from all the others, because almost everyone who is severely ill is also unvaccinated. In Texas, more than 12,800 people are in the hospital because of Covid-19, and between 93 and 98 percent of them are unvaccinated.
It’s tempting to blame this wave not on the virus but on the people who didn’t get their shots. “This has been bubbling up—this anger, this frustration, this fear, this worry. Every day, we’re seeing the ascent of the curve. Now it’s the steepest it’s ever been,” Fine says. “So I and the other leaders of the task force, we decided, you know, these numbers are not looking good. These questions are coming up."
You seemed quite excited about denying healthcare to a whole group of people. I may have misinterpreted
A whole group of people who choose to risk infecting others with deadly diseases. They're a public health risk and shouldn't take up a single hospital bed that someone else could use.
Yeah ok I was right. It is punitive.
No, I'm simultaneously saying that they should be deprioritized because they're a higher risk to other people and saying that your handwringing over the poor, poor antivaxers is unwarranted.
:ooooooooooooooh: Antivaxxers shouldn't face the consequences of their actions!!!!!
I'm hearing you say that antivaxers don't deserve healthcare and need to face consequences for the decisions they made, including death. I also see you practically bathing in the thought of their "personal responsibility" decision.
I agree with you that I'm these circumstances patients need to be triaged and difficult choices will be made. I don't think it's appropriate to revel in the thought of antivaxers eating shit, and you don't have to develop a liberal smirk about it.
Overall its not good that people are sick and dying, regardless of their choices.
The government sucks and is pushing things off onto personal responsibility, but its a matter of not endangering others. That's like saying we shouldn't do anything about people causing massive wildfires with their unnecessary gender reveal parties because that would be pushing personal responsibility.
There are of course many differences, but the main ones that I first think of is that peoe who start wildfires are already held a little bit responsible for that - they are fined at least - they are doing something against the law, unlike antivaxers (not that I agree with that, I think that it should be against the law not to be vaccinated).
And that in this case the other guy was almost happy that the antivaxers were going to die due to their own personal choices. Being happy about someone's deaths (when they're not cops or capitalists) is uncool.
The law sucks and it's liberal to use that as your yardstick for social problems
And, speaking as someone with autism, it's extremely fucked up to try to police someone based on the way you perceive their emotions, and to continually ascribe feeling to some expression they themselves said don't exist
Beyond that, I know an antivaxer who just died of covid literally yesterday and I can confidently say that nothing of value was lost. People who refuse to get vaccinated at this point are a huge danger to society — for example, my vaccinated grandma who's in the icu on a vent right now, or my severely immunocompromised wife, or my nieces who are starting public school in Florida this week — and the more of them that die, the smaller the chance they'll murder someone I care about or someone else who is willing to take steps to protect others.
I don't think they should get the death penalty for it, but when their antisocial actions push the medical system to the limit, they should absolutely be sent to the back of the line.