I think everyone here believes 9/11 conspiracies to a certain extent. Hell, I think most people believe in certain variations of them. The extent of which is where your mileage may vary.

  • Bush/Cheney/Rumself knew about it and intentionally did nothing to stop it
  • The Saudis did it

These two are pretty universally accepted in these circles (and beyond them). But I'm curious to where everyone here feels about the more nitty gritty theories:

  • Do you believe that the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld-lead cabal actively coordinated in ways to make it easier for the hijackings to be successful (such as disrupting the NORAD response, intentionally allowing the hijackers into the country and coordinating freely, etc...)

  • Do you believe in the controlled demolition theory?

  • Do you believe Flight 93 was shot down?

  • Do you think the people the official narrative claims were flying the planes were actually flying the planes? This seems to breakdown to two different scenarios:

    1. The hijackers were never actually flying the plane (Which is a theory I don't support)
    2. The hijackers were "flying" the plane but it was actually being piloted as an autonomous drone (I think this is way more likely)

  • Do you believes the planes that crashed into the buildings weren't actually the reported planes and the passengers were disposed by other means?

  • Do you believe a missile hit the Pentagon?

  • Do you believe that certain people were aware of what was going to happen and tipped off about it, allowing them to execute lucrative securities trading?

For me, I believe:

  • That the involvement of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld-lead cabal definitely took active measures to make sure it succeeds
  • Flight 93 was shot down
  • The planes were being autonomously piloted

I am agnostic to the controlled demolition theories. The physics and engineering component of it goes a bit over my head, so I'm left to trusting certain peoples analysis. I've seen people I trust provide arguments for both sides.

I'm curious to hear where everyone else falls on this spectrum?

    • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Forget why -- I'd like to know how, considering the USAF doesn't typically fuck around with live munitions on training flights over the continental US (especially during peacetime), and they didn't have armed fighters on 24/7 standby back then. There are also some inconsistencies in the stories:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93#Fighter_jet_response

      • bigboopballs [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        and they didn’t have armed fighters on 24/7 standby back then

        ah, the good ol' days of pre-9/11

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Because even theories about much wider conspiracies don't require everyone to be "in on it", so that would be a normal response from a military trying to prevent some terrorism.

      And then it would be covered up because it's a bad look for the military to intentionally kill a bunch of Americans.

      • Hotspur21 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Ah. I was assuming people that think the plane was shot down would also think that the government was in on it and wouldn’t care what it did