I think everyone here believes 9/11 conspiracies to a certain extent. Hell, I think most people believe in certain variations of them. The extent of which is where your mileage may vary.

  • Bush/Cheney/Rumself knew about it and intentionally did nothing to stop it
  • The Saudis did it

These two are pretty universally accepted in these circles (and beyond them). But I'm curious to where everyone here feels about the more nitty gritty theories:

  • Do you believe that the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld-lead cabal actively coordinated in ways to make it easier for the hijackings to be successful (such as disrupting the NORAD response, intentionally allowing the hijackers into the country and coordinating freely, etc...)

  • Do you believe in the controlled demolition theory?

  • Do you believe Flight 93 was shot down?

  • Do you think the people the official narrative claims were flying the planes were actually flying the planes? This seems to breakdown to two different scenarios:

    1. The hijackers were never actually flying the plane (Which is a theory I don't support)
    2. The hijackers were "flying" the plane but it was actually being piloted as an autonomous drone (I think this is way more likely)

  • Do you believes the planes that crashed into the buildings weren't actually the reported planes and the passengers were disposed by other means?

  • Do you believe a missile hit the Pentagon?

  • Do you believe that certain people were aware of what was going to happen and tipped off about it, allowing them to execute lucrative securities trading?

For me, I believe:

  • That the involvement of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld-lead cabal definitely took active measures to make sure it succeeds
  • Flight 93 was shot down
  • The planes were being autonomously piloted

I am agnostic to the controlled demolition theories. The physics and engineering component of it goes a bit over my head, so I'm left to trusting certain peoples analysis. I've seen people I trust provide arguments for both sides.

I'm curious to hear where everyone else falls on this spectrum?

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    My 9/11 conspiracy theory is that the US caused it by supporting and training radicals to fight communists and then bombing them and causing them to turn against the US for political reasons. I don't see much use for conspiracies when I can just say that.

    Having said that, George W. Bush did personally fly the first plane into a tower, and Dick Cheney did the second.

    • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      agreed with all of this, especially the last bit.

      But yeah, this was just what was going to happen lol. I don't believe they had some secret pact to blow up part of new york, they're fucking nationalist idiots. I think it's just hubris coming back to haunt America and then the US lashing out as hard as they can at the nearest brown people they can find instead of looking inwardly, as was intended by the founding fathers..

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      3 years ago

      This seems the most logical and likely to me I would only add I wouldn’t be surprised if they knew beforehand and allowed it to happen as an excuse to make money /justify the military budget while also increasing it going to war in the Middle East