• TankieDukakis [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    When, if not now, does this shit hit critical mass? I hate to sound doomer but if BLM/Covid combo didn't radicalize people how bad does shit have to get?

      • TankieDukakis [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah I guess but I just can't fathom how bad things will have to get before people truly start standing against it.

        • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Honestly I don't think Americans as a whole will ever take a stand. By the time it would get bad enough for them to do it, 90% of the U.S. would be dead and the government/police/military effectively dissolved

          • truth [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Nah people will come around. The propaganda bubble most Americans live in requires a lot of things to continue. Gotta be able to shop at target, go to the ball game, see your family for dinner on Christmas. When that starts to end and breakdown, people begin to change. What's missing is a political articulation of this energy which already exists, but it will come. Don't forget how the Russian peasantry was with the czar in Russia.

    • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      The BLM protests of the past year are probably the largest protest movement in American history, people are definitely getting radicalized. Theyve slowed down recently but the struggle against police brutality is far from over

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Americans are having to basically relearn the revolutionary struggle in real time at an accelerated pace. It'll take time, but we will win in the long run.

        • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I checked wikipedia, and besides the 1970 earth day protest (which I know literally nothing about so no comment), the biggest protest in American history was the 2017 women's march. The difference between those in just 3 years is immense

          • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I was at both the Women's March and BLM. BLM definitely had clear tensions between the Liberal and Radical elements that I didn't see in the Women's march. It also felt way scarier because you know how mad the police were at the BLM.

            • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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              3 years ago

              That's exactly my point, we've become a lot more radicalized, and the amount of BLM protesters were triple that of the women's march

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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                3 years ago

                My small mountain town still has BLM and communist graffiti in the alley ways from last summer.

                Everyone I talk to understands the need for changes and it's to the point that I can just openly describe communism and lots of people that aren't die hard PMC libs generally agree with me.

    • BruceWillis [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      the system has paid enough of the population to be engaged in it's preservation and with enough technologies of control that a movement can never win.

      • 01100011101001111100 [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        It feels that way for sure. But it can be done, it must be done, it will be done. Black lives are worth fighting for and the people of Minneapolis have a right to live without fear of being killed by cops and have a right to get true justice and real peace.

    • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Americans generally approve of Biden’s handling of COVID and have a more favorable view of the police than they did prior to George Floyd’s murder.

      The answer to “what more has to happen before people get radicalized” is “I have no idea, but a hell of a lot more than what’s currently happening.”