I've noticed a worrying trend among the LGBT community in recent years, the amount of lesbians, gays, and bisexuals refusing to associate with it because they don't want to associate with trans people is astonishing. There's also a huge amount of racism among the LGB specifically as well as reactionary politics, they feel accepted by cis society so they want to stab us in the back for their own benefit. I'm fucking tired of it as a enby myself, there needs to be a literal purge in the LGB to get rid of transphobes and chuds.

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Keep calling me sus, everything I said is true. trans and nb's aren't respected by a lot of the lgb and they are wrong for not respecting us.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    • "I got mine" is a universal human vice

    • Older white gay men are more conservative than you'd think because the coolest ones died so much more. They're pretty much old white men by now

    • Doing bad shit to people doesn't have good effects. It doesn't make a person kinder. The worse something is, the more everyone insists there's got to be a silver lining. There's no silver lining. And suffering isn't a virtue- people don't become wiser and more moral through the act of suffering. Like, if Israel is doing a genocide, doesn't that throw a fucking wrench into that mode of thought?

    • hillaryisbossqueen [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      white people in general have done so much harm to the LGBT movement it's gonna take a generation of Black and Indigenous influencers to get rid of the stains like Nambla, Harvey Milk, Pete Buttigieg, terfs, and woke capitalism.

        • hillaryisbossqueen [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          It was a majority white organization that Harvey Milk tried to include into the LGBT umbrella. Who do you think stopped that, it wasn't gay white people.

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            Got a source on that? Specifically Milk's alleged connection to NAMBLA

            • hillaryisbossqueen [none/use name]
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              Jack McKinley was 16, Milk was 33. He had pedophile tendencies and sympathies, read his biography The Mayor of Castro Street. Milk was a sleazeball politician who helped legitimize the gay bourgeoisie.

              • VeganVelveeta [she/her]
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                We’re still waiting for that source on Milk’s connection to NAMBLA.

                • hillaryisbossqueen [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  The Mayor of Castro Street. You can read it or you can keep claiming Harvey Milk was a good icon for the gay movement, and I mean specifically gay.

                  • VeganVelveeta [she/her]
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                    3 years ago

                    It’s funny you should say that because I own a copy. What page or chapter is that in? The ebook isn’t returning any results.

                • VeganVelveeta [she/her]
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                  This is chud bullshit against Milk and I found that with 5 minutes on a search engine.

                  Age of consent in New York was 16. It’s sus, but not the crime this comment plays it up as. They were also together for years and Jack was 18 when they moved to California.

                • hillaryisbossqueen [none/use name]
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                  Swear a movie about Milk's assassination would be a lot more entertaining than one of JFK's because it's just so stupid. The guy that did it white, shot both milk and the mayor of San Francisco over not being reappointed, claims that junk food caused him to kill those two people, caused a riot, and in the end Diane fucking Feinstein claws her way to the top of the political ladder in SF with everyone above her dead from a case of the white male rage.

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                    claims that junk food caused him to kill those two people

                    It's actually not quite that:

                    The actual legal defense that White's lawyers used was that his mental capacity had been diminished, and White's consumption of junk food was presented to the jury as one of many symptoms, not a cause, of White's depression.

                  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    Have you seen "Milk," with Sean Penn? It doesn't get into the aftermath too much as I recall.

                    • hillaryisbossqueen [none/use name]
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                      3 years ago

                      Kinda whitewashes it and the assassination isn't the main focus. Hollywood could definitely make a death of stalin esque movie about Harvey

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    ib4 this post gets edited to say “upvote if you want to blow up bernie sanders office next week”

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    being one form of queer would hopefully bring about solidarity with other queer people, you would assume. however, like you said, these assimilationist, typically white, cis queers would rather stand on top of others in a bid to be seen as 'normal'. racism in the MLM community is so rampant, because this white majority still has deeply ingrained anti black and especially anti asian ideas embedded within their world view, being queer didn't suddenly make them anti racist. it is a huge issue, and liberal queer people want to just paper over it with rainbow flags, ignoring how much this alienates people of colour, trans people, and other marginalised and unaccepted forms of sexual and gender expression, and blocks them from having a supportive community space. it's fucked!

  • VeganVelveeta [she/her]
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    Hey OP - Any response about what page or chapter in the “Mayor Of Castro Street” your claim about “Harvey Milk being involved with NAMBLA” is in? I downloaded an epub and nothing is coming up when I search.

    • hillaryisbossqueen [none/use name]
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      The aids crisis created a generational gap in the LGBT community, the old couldn't teach the new on account of being dead and those that survived were by and large rich white men who had the best chance to survive something like aids due to generational wealth. Those ghouls are the ones teaching the virtues of capitalism to the young lgbt because they simply are the only ones standing to teach anything.

        • hillaryisbossqueen [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The problem is there's so few of them compared to white ones. I mean theres notable people like Bayard Rustin and then you got ghouls like Lora Lightfoot. But I could just list so many ones that died of aids it's sad.

  • Lydia [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    And then people who are enbyphobic and xenogender-phobic in the trans community :trans-sad: the whole thing is a mess

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    I've followed a discussion on Twitter among LGBTQ people a few weeks ago who talked about exactly this. They were concerned about the amount of young, queer people at CSD parades with highly reactionary takes on men in fetish gear making out, and how the number seems to be growing year by year. According to them, stuff like "what if children see this" are common arguments among younger people, which is obviously concerning because that's exactly the kind of bigoted reasoning reactionaries have used for decades to shame LGBTQ people into hiding.

    For what it's worth, they came to the same conclusion, that there's a growing number of LGBTQ people who don't know anything about the history and struggle, who grew up in a world which accepted them, and have in turn become far more reactionary than previous generations. They don't want to be associated with "the freaks", they just want to live a normal life, y'know? Their sexuality, unlike the fetish crowd's, is "normal", after all.

    Edit: Forgot to add, the problem here is obviously that these kids don't understand how privileged they really are, and how fragile said privilege really is. They don't grasp how easily their rights can be taken away from them, and if you know anything about history or the world in general, how some people will definitely try to do just that.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Same reason Irish immigrants to the US were so racist despite being victims of racism themselves