Like I get that ivermectin can be harmful and isn’t meant for COVID w/e.
But I also know a lot of houseless people and uninsured that have relied on animal medication when human medication was inaccessible to them due to the cost. Is it safe or advised? No. But it’s nice to not have to choose between medication and eating when you’re sick and poor.
This whole “lol they take horse meds they’re dumb” is a bad way to angle your argument IMO as it can be leveraged to punch down. And we need to be thinking critically about what kind of laws can come from encouraging takes like this. I don’t want to limit anyone’s access to affordable medicine even if some people abuse that access to get diarrhea.
Perhaps we shouldn’t be attacking the problem on some intrinsic “human taking animal meds bad” but more on the reasons people do it? Because all of this links back to the bigger problem that America doesn’t have adequate healthcare for its people. And, I would argue, that leveraging the discussion from that logic would add more weight to our cause and help more people see the inherent evils that are contributing to this. (Namely American healthcare interest groups)
Thoughts?
Me: Do you think this narrative could be used for harm in the future?
You: We’re not bashing the poor.
It’s like you’re talking at me not with me.
your own words
Where does that accuse anyone of bashing the poor again? I’m saying we’re criticizing people that take animal medication, not all of whom are poor. Saying something could have the unintended consequence of harming the poor is not the same as accusing someone of being malicious against the poor.
If you’re not intentionally nuance trolling, it’s time to clarify whether this thread is a callout of forum behavior or a discussion of frustration with off-site behavior and no proposed solution.
Does “callout” imply that I think this narrative is intentional or malicious coming from hexbear? Because I do not.
Can it be both? I’m frustrated that off-site behavior is having an effect on on-site behavior but I don’t think anyone here is genuinely against the poor? I was curious if anyone else was worried that this could be co-opted to paint poor people as stupid because of the actions of a few chuds. If the deaths really are less than toaster deaths for ivermectin how does that compare to the hundreds of thousands that lose their lives to lack of affordable healthcare?
Can that small harm be used to justify magnifying the big harm? Historically America has done this for less. I guess all of it is pretty moot because ideally no one would have to resort to animal medication. But with Biden in office we aren’t going to see that change. I’m concerned about the changes we could see and how they could get us closer to greater harm.
I know hexbear has no large effect as an isolated community. But the actions we take individually outside of this website can have a greater impact. I guess I just chose this void to yell into because I thought it would listen.