For what it's worth, having a connection to the podcast, would sometimes make it harder to talk to actual organizers or communists of color. I remember one time trying to reach out to some folks about the book club and without anything other than the subreddit name in the link they replied with "they don't fuck with chapo".
Sounds like a bonus. The type of person for whom a nominal (literally nominal in this case) association with a leftist comedy podcast is a complete dealbreaker is the kind of person who's not going to be organizing or interested in learning. They're going to be making demands and ultimatums. At least that's been my experience with DSA type people IRL. It would be different if CTH were notorious, but it's a milquetoast leftist podcast that has done great work as a pipeline into socialism over the past 5 years.
yeah, i tend to agree. why the fuck would you be that sectarian when the left is as tiny as it is in the US? like sure, have disagreements or whatever, but work together for now. having a LARP-ish power struggle when you're barely a blip on mainstream culture is cringe.
People might not be aware, or remember, some of the early controversies around Chapo Trap House. First, there is always the fact they are making millions of dollars with a nominally leftist take on politics but they do not disclose where their money is going (except for joking about cocaine and ketamine, which...ya know). They also made a joke about the MOVE bombing being justified — this is a tragedy that reverberates to this day with survivors still in jail, or being released at the ripe age of 70 or 80 years old, and their children's bones recently being found at Penn U. They posed next to Bill Cosby's hollywood star and made light of his rape allegations. Felix made some controversial statements on Twitter regarding SA. And they had incredibly shitty takes regarding the summer 2020 uprisings, and the movement or calls for defunding the police and having Matt Taibbi to shit on critical race theory (which it's not even taught in schools, so please shut the fuck up). Personally, chapo helped radicalized, it got me reading more theory and history and renewed/rekindled my interest in politics and social justice, ironically enough; but other people are allowed to criticize the podcast, their ideas, their tropes, and their takes and I have a genuine interest in intersectionality with comrades of color and it is a bummer to try and advance a project of political education and have it meet a fucking wall because of the CTH brand. But that's just me...
For what it's worth, having a connection to the podcast, would sometimes make it harder to talk to actual organizers or communists of color. I remember one time trying to reach out to some folks about the book club and without anything other than the subreddit name in the link they replied with "they don't fuck with chapo".
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We just organize around the toilet bowl of humor
One of the roasters on Chapo's 500th ep said them using the Gucci Mane theme song was the only black person they ever have on the show.
Sounds like a bonus. The type of person for whom a nominal (literally nominal in this case) association with a leftist comedy podcast is a complete dealbreaker is the kind of person who's not going to be organizing or interested in learning. They're going to be making demands and ultimatums. At least that's been my experience with DSA type people IRL. It would be different if CTH were notorious, but it's a milquetoast leftist podcast that has done great work as a pipeline into socialism over the past 5 years.
yeah, i tend to agree. why the fuck would you be that sectarian when the left is as tiny as it is in the US? like sure, have disagreements or whatever, but work together for now. having a LARP-ish power struggle when you're barely a blip on mainstream culture is cringe.
The DSA near me goes through one leadership team a year or so for this reason. Absolute joke.
People might not be aware, or remember, some of the early controversies around Chapo Trap House. First, there is always the fact they are making millions of dollars with a nominally leftist take on politics but they do not disclose where their money is going (except for joking about cocaine and ketamine, which...ya know). They also made a joke about the MOVE bombing being justified — this is a tragedy that reverberates to this day with survivors still in jail, or being released at the ripe age of 70 or 80 years old, and their children's bones recently being found at Penn U. They posed next to Bill Cosby's hollywood star and made light of his rape allegations. Felix made some controversial statements on Twitter regarding SA. And they had incredibly shitty takes regarding the summer 2020 uprisings, and the movement or calls for defunding the police and having Matt Taibbi to shit on critical race theory (which it's not even taught in schools, so please shut the fuck up). Personally, chapo helped radicalized, it got me reading more theory and history and renewed/rekindled my interest in politics and social justice, ironically enough; but other people are allowed to criticize the podcast, their ideas, their tropes, and their takes and I have a genuine interest in intersectionality with comrades of color and it is a bummer to try and advance a project of political education and have it meet a fucking wall because of the CTH brand. But that's just me...
Cool, absolutely not the same as refusing to have anything to do with that name near it.
CTH, due to its reach, has done more for the "left" than any of the people who despise it.
It's not ironic. That's explicitly what CTH is good at. Making leftist politics not look like going to church with losers.
I disagree but w.e.