Y'all on the lib shit around here

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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        3 years ago

        So you're saying my family and friends that died from covid is a government conspiracy?

        Get :ban-hammer: and get the fuck out of here

        • Iminhere3000 [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          No, I'm saying that a real pandemic is being used to accomplish these things. So it is necessary to question the mainstream narrative with this in mind. It's not that complicated

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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            3 years ago

            What mainstream narrative are you questioning then, that covid isn't burning through this nation, that vaccines aren't real, or that you shouldn't eat toxic substances like bleach and horse paste?

              • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                Yeah, but that doesn't mean universally every single fact mentioned on CNN is suddenly wrong. Otherwise we'd be drinking bleach lmao.

                • andys_nuts [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Plus, "questioning" should have some focus, or else the questioner is just blowing smoke. @Alaskaball's comment about "well what exactly are you questioning, what exactly do you think is false?" is a good one.

                  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    Fucking thank you. Otherwise it's just crank shit.

                    And it's megasus to imply (as some people sometimes do) that "WMDs in Iraq" and "don't eat the horse paste" are somehow equivalent narratives.

                  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    Yeah, of course you should interrogate all news reports. But in this instance it's not looking like anti-ivermectin media is a conspiracy.

                      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        All of this is very true, but not really relevant to the ivermectin coverage.

                        Basically all pandemic coverage focuses on individual choice and avoids looking too hard at the systemic issues underlying it all. This is, of course, beneficial to bourgeois interests. The horse paste (subject of this thread) still isn't a good idea, just like the previous miracle cures chuds were obsessing over which have now been memory-holed.

                          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                            3 years ago

                            We've just gone over this, though. You should question and analyze everything. Questioning and analyzing ivermectin coverage shows that, while the media is shit, ivermectin probably isn't a good idea. Therefore, OP should stop JAQing off all over this thread.

                              • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                                3 years ago

                                "Just Asking Questions."

                                Also, we have other sources that show us that ivermectin is probably a bad plan, and WMDs were not in Iraq. The media is unreliable, but they're only sometimes lying, as a function of the interests of their owners.

                                In any case, we should probably wrap up this discussion, because the thread has been removed.

              • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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                3 years ago

                Do you not accept that it is within their class interest to not have large numbers of the proletariat poison themselves to death during another crisis of Capital?

                  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    Most big bourgeois would probably like nothing more than for everyone to take the fucking vaccines and go back to work. Necessity of booster shots (more money for pharma companies) is guaranteed regardless due to vaccine apartheid in the global south.

                      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        Well yes, the bourgeoisie is not a monolith. It is in the interests of most of them for things to go back to normal, especially many of the larger and more powerful ones directly invested in the stability of the state.

            • Iminhere3000 [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              It is misdirection as far as who the enemy is. It's not idiots taking ivermectin. Ruling class is running off with bags rn and restructuring society to make any kind of worker organizing very difficult. I think they are happy for the working class to fight amongst itself over dumb and sometimes made up shit like this.

              It's media propaganda (this article is a perfect example) aimed at the libs/left to discredit any questioning of the narrative. Not too different from Alex Jones post 9/11 making any questioning of the mainstream narrative sound like crazy "conspiracy" talk

              • LilComrade [comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                :jesse-wtf: you are on the right track but obviously too stupid to do good media analysis. Go listen to citations needed and realize you’re not that smart and that’s ok. :citations-needed:

              • andys_nuts [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                It is misdirection as far as who the enemy is. It’s not idiots taking ivermectin.

                This isn't an either/or thing. Obviously capitalists are part of the problem, but your friendly neighborhood chuds are part of the problem, too. With our deep reserve of posting power we can dunk on both.

      • LilComrade [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        So all the people whose surgeries for very real health problems that are getting delayed where i live are all just part of a grand conspiracy? and the ICUs aren’t actually full of fucking morons too stupid to save their own lives and help end the pandemic by getting vaccinated?

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Neither of you have presented a cohesive point though. The bourgeois use anything as an excuse to do literally all of those things, what specifically does it have to do with the narrative surrounding ivermectin. Please explain the material interests at play, and who is manipulating what exactly.