I’ve taught mathematics at community colleges for over 20 years and I’m absolutely convinced that not all people can learn algebra or calculus.
It's obviously genetic, says the mathemetician.
I tried once to ask reddit's Anthropologists about what cultural artifacts are affected by genetics e.g. how lactose intolerance can affect a local culture. The question was apparently racist and then taken down.
I once asked an obvious lead in to a racist argument and was called a racist. It must be a conspiracy.
[Generic pontificating on the nature of society from the fount of the infinite wisdom of my anus] (it's multiple comment threads, and the free square on your HN bingo card)
You write web servers that need more boxes and serve less traffic than was standard 10 years ago. Why would anyone listen to you on any topic.
I’ve taught mathematics at community colleges for over 20 years and I’m absolutely convinced that not all people can learn algebra or calculus.
Clearly it's a genetic issue and not 13 years of school teaching kids to hate math. 🙄
that may be true but they can probably change the oil in their car and you can't, nerd.
Clearly it’s a genetic issue and not 13 years of school teaching kids to hate math. 🙄
I am convinced that some people can't learn algebra and calculus, just like some people are not able to read visually. However those cases are rare and when we properly have inclusion it doesn't matter.
Totally with you in terms of the school system instilling fear and acting as filter against self motivated people who wouldn't accept sitting in an office for 10 hours on end.
I’ve taught mathematics at community colleges for over 20 years and I’m absolutely convinced that not all people can learn algebra or calculus.
Imagine owning yourself that hard.
racist math teachers deserve the :gulag:
I had a teacher from the "good" side of town (:us-foreign-policy:) in 6th grade who absolutely fucked the entire grade over by being a frigid, insane racist bitch and literally no one learned any math at that critical junction because of some middle aged womans dumb hang ups regarding ethnicity and thus doomed an entire generation of brown kids to go and prove those stereotypes
only good thing she did was turn me on to the Talking Heads
Agree with you, in specific about the HN fascist:
This belief of mine is considered heretical amongst leftist colleagues (I’m a liberal myself on almost every issue). As a college we act as if everyone can pass. Years of administration telling the math department that our passing rate is too low have led me to pretty much pass everyone who takes the final exam. Last semester 80% passed but only around 50% deserved to.
When you get Finland with 90%+ rate of people finishing their STEM degrees, when you get applied math and science courses which do actually make people competent, when you get even slightly good results at Carnegie Mellon and VHS's in Germany then it isn't on the people you teach, but on you (and the system and the influence the system had on the people before). After you dealt with those problems we can gladly as institutions and teachers try to form councils in which the learners are experts in their own right and can learn and teach each other, till then those HN news claims are bullshit ideology and chauvinistic.
I have yet to have listened to courses of people who claim "It is the students faults! They are just not able to grasp things" - esp. when they say 50% of the people they teach! and not have it be the fault of them sucking at what they do.
There seems to be this common attitude that the students need to Earn their education, and that lots of failures is a sign that the Weak and Undeserving are being weeded out. It's such a weird attitude - shouldn't we be nurturing our next generation, trying to grow them into better people? Instead of pressing them against the grindstone of testing and credentializing, and then throwing them away like trash when so many of them fail.
I think it's funnier that it literally makes them horny that the "undeserving" are weeded out, but once those people are shut out of society and then go and try to make a living by whatever means possible like beating and robbing the Mayos and Gusanos they go and complain
Ah yes, I love having a society based on dispensing arbitrary cruelty based on my toddler like gut instincts and the myriad of social problems it creates. Very cool!
shouldn’t we be nurturing our next generation, trying to grow them into better people? Instead of pressing them against the grindstone of testing and credentializing, and then throwing them away like trash when so many of them fail.
yes, but capitalism selects against empathy and nurturing behavior :(
When you get Finland with 90%+ rate of people finishing their STEM degrees
Oh well when you say that, they just say it's that Finland (which is filled with Mongols when they're not using the ethnostate line as a weap)on/Germany/etc. is an all white ethnostate and as such doesn't have to "babysit" a bunch of savages and is better able to devote resources to a group of people who are inherently smarter to begin with
What's funny is that I've been railroaded into remedial classes meant for breeding the underclass of people working at McDonalds and there were more than a few white kids in there, so I tend to wonder what they would do about that
"If you have trouble learning calculus at age 19 it's genetic" says big brain boy
Idiotic understanding of anthropology and genetics aside, this sounds like a dude who is kinda ok at teaching math, but mostly at the dead end of a process that has filtered only the most disadvantaged 19 year olds to him and then being like 'wtf these kids can't do math', as opposed to the more accurate thought of 'wtf how the hell has the academic system failed these kids so astoundingly that they struggle doing basic math?'
I for one had a series of awful math teachers, to the point when I finally got good ones it was still a struggle to keep up in the class because I hadn't mastered the steps before. It wasn't until college that I actually grasped algebra and trig, and that was in the process of attempting to learn basic calculus for the second time.
Biggest culprits for some kids not being able to learn certain subjects such as Math are piece of shit reactionary assholes like this guy who don’t understand shit about shit and impose their birdbrain logic on their students and ruin them for life.
My father was a Pure Mathematics profesor and because of him I became decent at mathematics but I had a fuckbrain racist shithead in highschool as a physics teacher who who’d pick on me and forever jammed my brain in Physics for the rest of my life. I’m now a shitty engineer because I can do Organic chemistry and Math just fine but as soon as I get into applied shit like Engineering which is mostly physics my brain goes into self destruct.
I’ve had lots of women classmates of mine in my humanities courses who said they wanted to go into technical fields but didn’t cause math was scary. MOST LIKELY BECAUSE OF ABSOLUTE VERMIN LIKE THIS GUY.
I remember a few months ago someone posting about how eventually, both digital and physical accessibility won’t be needed due to genetic screening. Society would just send the remaining unscreened people who have disabilities to live in a specific “city” where accommodations are made and the rest of society can move forward unburdened. Lots of upvotes.
Putting aside the Nazi-esque eugenics of that idea, it’s quite the statement to believe that disability only comes about through genetics and not, oh, I dunno, something that can happen to anyone at any time. Glaucoma? Lose a leg in an accident caused by a Tesla self driving car?To the disabled death camp for you!
I hate working in the tech industry :sadness:
Yeah, I love how the Dunning-Kreuger inflicted big brained dorks don't think that screening would impact them.
:lets-fucking-go: "You're not part of the club!"
Ya as a disabled person who didn't become disabled until later in my life, it's fucking disgusting how often I'm attacked and shamed and hated by people who are literally a car accident or a slip on ice or a trip down the stairs away from being in my place. Like this fucking hog idiots don't comprehend that they have fragile animal bodies that can be permanently damaged.
"Hacker" "News" has always been full calipers. I'm an old-school hacker (not security-focused), and work in software development, but my actual degree is in anthropology. I used to work hard at correcting the misunderstandings of stembros, but I've given up, and generally just use my accumulated karma on the orange hellsite to troll without fear of consequence.
anyone self-describing as a hacker is at best weird imo.
kinda sad im not as into the up to date info as I used to be though, but the old "hacker" forms were 90% script kiddies who just bs answer any question.
e: also the new dog whistle for this topic is "Human Biodiversity"
People who are nerds for venture capitalism should not be called "hackers".
Even OGOG "hacker" was a very anti-establishment type movement of reusing and making use of things for other purposes. Then Hacker being made to equate to "Cracker" is still very much not like what these dorks are.
Hackers are guys like Geohotz, who gets kicked out of college freshman year for cracking the card swipe systems, taunts sony and apple, gets a job at google and quits, then says "fuck it i'm gonna make a self driving car" and does it, using a phone and 3d printed mounts to make systems about as good as the vaporware teslas.
man fuuuck HN.
jwz said it best: “a DDoS made of finance-obsessed man-children and brogrammers”.
That may or may not be a caption attached to a picture of a hairy testicle in an egg cup that shows up if you try to link to his site from HN.
That may or may not be a caption attached to a picture of a hairy testicle in an egg cup that shows up if you try to link to his site from HN.
:michael-laugh:
I liked an occasional browse of webshit weekly to see some good dunks on HN. They kinda have some ‘authority always bad’ shit takes though. Looks like they haven’t updated through august though.
Optimally, we could have a Marxist lens version in our c/technology community.
It's a shame webshit weekly hasn't been updating. It's been a particularly wild couple of months on Hacker News.
As part of my news digestion, I have it filtered through Hexbear to some degree which is... ok, I guess. HN previously served this role. It is still good for seeing what's hot in tech though usually very web focused which is...meh.
The tech news side of it has gotten fuzzier and less information-dense. These days I'm mostly on HN because of the opportunity for syndicalist agitation. There was a good period of a couple years where me and a handful of others were actually getting people to think seriously about unionizing. That's died off since the pandemic started, but I still check the comments sometimes to see if there's an opportunity. (But the site really has went through a hard right turn this year.)
But the site really has went through a hard right turn this year.
when will things work the opposite way :sadness-abysmal:
There was also some slow and steady leftward movement from like 2018 through 2020. Reactionary turns are faster but I don't think that means they'll win.
r/cth must have been the Shanghai massacre for online commies (of a certain sort only, really). We've retreated from Reddit and HN in order to regroup and grow in strength up in the mountains of Hexbear.
I would love to participate in that. Now that I'm back working in-office, I'm self-harming by reading the Orange Hellsite.
I internally cringe whenever I think of going on there. Just thoroughly fucking liberal :brainworms: .
I'm addicted to Hacker News, but it's definitely a cesspool of temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
yeah same. there are very few places to find interesting things worth reading, so it's a pretty ok aggregator. but goddamn the fucking community is horrible
I'll be honest, most math teachers either aren't very good at teaching math, or they're assholes who alienate their students and make them associate math with feeling terrible, probably because scrotums like this guy imply it makes them genetically inadequate if they struggle with new material.
Every math class I got through and every time I used math in a science class, it was all self-taught., frankly
100% checks out: barely passed Math and failed Calculus horribly in high school, both my teachers were massive assholes. In Uni got fucking 95+% in all my math courses because I had an awesome prof who wrote the spiral-bound "textbooks" which were sold for almost nothing (~$5).
Genetics matters, if you have ape genetics you should be treated with dignity and respect. If you have the genetics of coronavirus not so much.
Edit: Ok to actually put on my stemlord hat, sure some day we may learn certain genotypes have a predisposition to learn better when using strategy a vs b or whatever... but we are so far away from making any such claims, not to mention we need to level the playfield with a little communism before we can really make fair assessments (and the actual implementation of policy no matter how fair the scientific foundation would of course be poisoned from the getgo under capitalism)
In U.S, coronavirus genetics gets you better treatment than ape genetics. You are free to replicate as much as you want without worrying about money.
I tried once to ask reddit’s Anthropologists about what cultural artifacts are affected by genetics e.g. how lactose intolerance can affect a local culture. The question was apparently racist and then taken down
It's not a dogwhistle anymore if everybody can hear it
I'll explain the cultural impacts of lactose intolerance: lactose intolerant people usually ferment or boil their milk.
That's it
Aww, but I wanted to read about boiled milk. (edit: I made this comment while the post was deleted)
