• zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Okay, you're a patriot. What exactly do you love about the US?

    The examples are like the Iraq war protests, which failed miserably as the country went into Iraq anyway.

    Martin Luther King? A man who was most likely murdered by the state for trying to change things. A man whose beliefs and actions have been watered down to be palatable for both liberals and conservatives, enough that they both invoke him without understanding him.

    BLM? Once again absorbed into the Democratic party and nullified. The response to huge protests all over the country was both political parties getting into a competition over who loved the police more and who could give them the most money.

    You're literally in basically the current imperial superpower in the world and you have the audacity to be like "It's actually Communist to love this country". Why do you love the country that has attempted to harass, damage, nullify, and kill any sort of working-class movement throughout its history? Or do you just mean that when you do the revolution, some of you get to wave the US flag around?

    • probabilityzero [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Or do you just mean that when you do the revolution, some of you get to wave the US flag around?

      Even that's an optimistic reading.

      The other reading is that when he says he's a "patriot" who "loves America" he means that in exactly the same way folks like Tucker Carlson do, and he defines "anti-imperialism" very narrowly (and wrongly) to line up with the shallow anti-interventionism of the populist right.

    • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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      3 years ago

      A lot of people feel icky when they insult their neighbors, or they don't want to view them as the imperial dogs and swine that they are. "The US" had never been anything but a Blade Runner off-world colony for western Europe's most insane bourgeoisie and failsons to buy a peerage instead of being graced with it by God, but people still like the people they're stuck with.