• JuneFall [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Patriotism =/= supremacism =/= revanchism, these are all very distinct categories from each other.

      followed by

      It just means that you have a special relationship with your family that you don’t have with others.

      So people have a special relation (akin to a family and thus maybe based on love and solidarity) to "their" nation? I disagree except for the structuring of ones life. A nation and the exclusion of others which comes from nation states esp. those who are based on blood like the German one does (till recently having German blood was enough to claim citizenship, but having lived here for 3 generations wasn't).

      I understand what you mean with your arguments, they just feel too close to the talking points of the identitarians in Germany for me to be taken seriously and without rejection.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I guess we're talking about semantics at this point.

      To me, and to most people I know, "Patriotism" is a substantially stronger statement than "I love my country", and even that is much much weaker than what the sort of wanker who would actually come out and say it in public would be trying to say.

      Maybe this is an Australian/New Zealand specific thing, because of how our national character is tied up in disastrous colonial military action. Maybe it's a softer meaning where you live and doesn't have those connotations.

      But I have never met anyone in real life who would describe themselves as a Patriot who hasn't been a chud, including the people I know who are centre-right and working class.