Honestly there's a dehumanization campaign against them rn. They emphasize the chuds, but there's tons of people who're avoiding it because they think it costs money or because of the history of the US experimenting on their communities.
I doubt that. The vaccine has been available for so long and made so easy to get and learn about. I really doubt many people are holding out because they think it cost money.
There have definitely been problems with distribution among racist and classist lines. And many people in working poverty cant afford the two days off to get vaccinated
I’m honestly super torn on this. On the one hand it’s dehumanizing and gross, and obviously we should be giving everyone the best medical care we can, regardless of their choices. But on the other hand, would it not be reasonable to move the unvaxxed covid patients down the list when there isn’t enough room? You shouldn’t die of a heart attack because an antivaxxer is taking up the last hospital bed. Idk. I hate the whole situation and I don’t like thinking about it, but if we’ve decided we’re just going to let covid burn and collapse our medical system, I’d rather priority go to the ones that aren’t actively making everything worse? Idk. Gross.
We already triage donor organs based on who is most likely to live a healthy life and make the most use of them. The ethics of that are debatable, but I don't see much of a difference between ICU beds and organs when we're dealing with a limited supply.
Of course, the lack of beds could have been prevented while the lack of donor organs is a trickier problem. The people responsible for stripping our hospitals of any excess capacity get the wall.
Yeah exactly. We don't give liver transplants to active alcoholics, same thing goes for oxygen to antivaxxers when you're down to triaging.
But also yes, and while I know it will never happen because we live in hell, we need some sort of tribunal to punish the people responsible for this disaster. Personally I'm of the opinion that every US governor and most of the house and senate are guilty of mass murder and deserve either life in prison or execution for their crimes against humanity. And I think such a tribunal should also look further back, and figure out who was responsible for making us so poorly prepared for this in the first place.
Recently where I live a vaccinated person in a nearby town had a breakthrough infection and died because the hospital had too many unvaxxed covid patients to deal with and they couldn't treat them in time. At the same time anti-mask rallies are being held. It needs to happen sooner rather than later. It's probably already happening unofficially in the worst hit areas of the country.
2 months before the unvaxxed get a lower priority of care, itll have to happen sooner or later
Honestly there's a dehumanization campaign against them rn. They emphasize the chuds, but there's tons of people who're avoiding it because they think it costs money or because of the history of the US experimenting on their communities.
I doubt that. The vaccine has been available for so long and made so easy to get and learn about. I really doubt many people are holding out because they think it cost money.
There have definitely been problems with distribution among racist and classist lines. And many people in working poverty cant afford the two days off to get vaccinated
what days off? though you'd still need an employer that's not totally shit and that could fire you for the lower productivity on those days
You don't need to take a day off unless you work every day. I got both my first and second dose on weekends, and pharmacies have them all the time.
Good. They're killing people with their selfishness. Let them die
That's too far away.
I’m honestly super torn on this. On the one hand it’s dehumanizing and gross, and obviously we should be giving everyone the best medical care we can, regardless of their choices. But on the other hand, would it not be reasonable to move the unvaxxed covid patients down the list when there isn’t enough room? You shouldn’t die of a heart attack because an antivaxxer is taking up the last hospital bed. Idk. I hate the whole situation and I don’t like thinking about it, but if we’ve decided we’re just going to let covid burn and collapse our medical system, I’d rather priority go to the ones that aren’t actively making everything worse? Idk. Gross.
We already triage donor organs based on who is most likely to live a healthy life and make the most use of them. The ethics of that are debatable, but I don't see much of a difference between ICU beds and organs when we're dealing with a limited supply.
Of course, the lack of beds could have been prevented while the lack of donor organs is a trickier problem. The people responsible for stripping our hospitals of any excess capacity get the wall.
Yeah exactly. We don't give liver transplants to active alcoholics, same thing goes for oxygen to antivaxxers when you're down to triaging.
But also yes, and while I know it will never happen because we live in hell, we need some sort of tribunal to punish the people responsible for this disaster. Personally I'm of the opinion that every US governor and most of the house and senate are guilty of mass murder and deserve either life in prison or execution for their crimes against humanity. And I think such a tribunal should also look further back, and figure out who was responsible for making us so poorly prepared for this in the first place.
Recently where I live a vaccinated person in a nearby town had a breakthrough infection and died because the hospital had too many unvaxxed covid patients to deal with and they couldn't treat them in time. At the same time anti-mask rallies are being held. It needs to happen sooner rather than later. It's probably already happening unofficially in the worst hit areas of the country.