democrats attempt a strategy other than scolding challenge [impossible]
I'm old enough to remember a guy running around the country promising "Hope" and "Change", claiming that we need a popular people-powered revolution to bring about sweeping economic reforms, and advocating for a large grass-roots organization to overturn a stagnant and deteriorating national regime.
That guy was absolutely full of shit and walked away from all the cool rhetoric as soon as he was sworn in (twice, because god forbid some bow-tie nerd question whether you followed the rules). But fuck, it was fun to believe better things were actually possible.
the thing i remember is believing he was genuine right up until the moment he nominated biden for vp. i held out hope for a little while that it was a ploy to manipulate party leadership, and then he just never closed guantanamo, and started bombing weddings and hospitals and pine nut farmers. but i recall a solid couple of weeks i thought things could turn around.
Back in 2008, I honestly had no idea why Biden's nomination was significant. He looked like a sop to the centrists rather than a broker for the plutocrats. In retrospect, I probably should have known better. But I was high on that "Anybody But Bush" drug, and Obama seemed like a far more attractive option than Clinton (nevermind McCain). So Biden didn't bother me until much later on.
he just never closed guantanamo, and started bombing weddings and hospitals and pine nut farmers
Yeah. The Gitmo thing in particular was just so nauseating. After all that Unitary Executive bullshit Bush had employed with abandon, it seemed downright trivial for a decent human being with Presidential authority to finally lance and drain that shameful sore on the American conscience. But year after year, long after the whole Congressional do nothing charade had turned into a sick joke, he just kinda organized another commission to question the logistics of thinking about the legality blah blah blah.
Literally all that asshole was good for was another package of excuses. Absolutely worthless piece of shit.
When Dems whine about DeSantis I like to remind them that he got started in GITMO. Obama was such a fucking failure. I remember when talking about climate change he brought up how his daughter was very distressed and her friends had questions and she wanted to know what to say. I am sure he thought his answer was salient because he repeated it. It was some bullshit about "well if we can't avoid 2C we will try to keep it under 3C.
The man basically told his daughter that we are fucked and asking for an unfucked future was meaningless. I can understand saying that to a child you don't know Ala Feinstein but saying it to your own kid is a special kind of fucked up.
"I think genocide is bad."
"Well that's okay, that's just a small disagreement, we can find a middle ground between us I'm sure"
If Trump is really a wannabe fascist dictator just throw his ass in jail until he dies. Why hinge the whole thing on whether or not Biden wins?
Because if they throw one president in prison it's a slippery slope to the rest of them being held liable for their many, many crimes.
so all future US presidents will work from prison. i fail to see the problem here.
That’s what they do with their politicians in the Australia of Discworld, they arrest them right away because it saves time
Liberals insist that republicans are fascist, taliban, compromised by foreign agents, undemocratic, and evil and that only the Democratic Party can protect democracy. Yet they will still allow the republicans to operate and hold contests with them every 2-4 years.
One party communist government? BAD!
Convoluted “liberal democracy” where you allow the people you consider undemocratic terrorists to hold power and negotiate with them for bread crumbs even when you’re in control of the country and military? GOOD!
I don't know what's more sad. Them cynically saying Trump launched a coup to scare their voters into voting for them, or Trump actually launching a clown coup failing and them being too much of weak pussies to fucking hang his ass.
They also jack themselves off for trying to be bipartisan with the aforementioned 'terrorists' too
bipartisan
I absolutely hate that word in english. I grow up reading and hearing that "partyzant" is a guy who kills nazis and blows up their stuff. Bipartisan should be just two of them. And now every time i hear that word in english it's always US ghouls agreeing on some ghoulish shit.
I’m a bipartisan in the historical sense of the word: I’m a partisan from both sides
Vote for the guy is funding and supporting a genocide abroad vs the guy who wants to be a xenophobe at home. What wonderful options!
biden is still building the wall, deporting tons of people and not dissolving ice. So the only difference is rhetoric.
Not true, Trump would get rid of Roe!
And he'd saber rattle with China, increase the military budget while we're not in any declared wars, bump border security's budget, entertain deals with the other party to send Ukraine more weapons in exchange for more xenophobic border laws, he'd deep six student loan forgiveness, he'd let states pass all sorts of transphobic bills
Wait, I'm being handed a note
personally I prefer my rhetoeic to be interrupted by plenty of pauses, slips of speech and _anyway_s, it's just got a softer mouthfeel you know?
Oh hey look at that, BlueMAGA has now reached the old 2018 RedMAGA benchmark of describing support for genocide as "a difference of opinion."
These motherfuckers really are just the same people they claim to hate but on a time delay
"Difference of opinions" is the worst fucking phrase to come out in the last decade.
People literally saying you just don't like Biden, or Trump, or fucking kanye because of a "difference of opinions"
Love to ask these dipshits of they'd have a problem with somebody driving around their neighborhood with a megaphone saying they fuck kids and somebody should kill them would they have a problem with that.
Oh why just because you have a difference of opinions on the matter of whether or not you should be extra judicially killed?
At this point all you can do is turn it back around on them. You and Biden have some differing opinions on lots of stuff.
Like genocide, and whether or not there's any chance you'd ever vote for him.
Didn't he make money being a Trump reply guy during his administration?
Imagining your avatar in a Wendy's window saying this
Probably, a bunch of them did
So ready for him and that Brooklyn Dad idiot to kick into high gear since it's about to be an election year
Correction: Brooklyn Dad Defiant. The defiant part was a reference to refusing to pay child support, his grift before Blue MAGA started paying him.
Oh I remembered that from other posts here
I simply forgot the last part of the name because...I don't really care
What does the patreon sub get them? Twitlonger links filled with more sick burns?
Yep, now he is yearning for those days again. People like Jeff aren’t actually affected by politics, he is part of the grift.
Biden is literally paving the way for Trump to deport and abuse even more immigrants. His policies are so bad that even liberals are starting to cry about it, but not because it’s bad, but because Trump might use those policies instead of Biden.
if you want my vote, start purging the aspiring fascist dictators
Seriously, it's the most insulting thing about this whole theater of crocodile hysterics. We fucking know they don't take this seriously, because if they did then they would have done the entire republican party Micheal Roenohl-style on January 7th.
I was almost relieved not having to see his fucking face everyday on Reddit, and then he pops up here
Genocide is going to happen blue or red purity 
. Don't have a choice in it. So who would you rather have genocide with? Be an adult and be pragmatic!Jeff getting back into the saddle now that the elections are only a year away. He's been bereft, searching for a purpose for 3 long years.
i only just learned that this guy is Katie Tiedrich's father and that's baffling to me. These people don't feel like they should belong to the same era. It's like learning that Anne Frank and Barbara Walters were born the same year.
i used to love awkward zombie and of the webcomics i liked in middle school it's one of the less bad ones
Cuz Biden loves immigrants. If he was more honest/conscious he’d be saying the same stuff. A president doesn’t just say stuff, they have real power and we’ve seen what Biden has done with it.
Literally earlier today when asked about Trump literally quoting Hitler about immigrants
"It's disgusting hebsaid that but there's a problem at the border we have to do something about"
Aka "no....... but also yes"
It's really liberating when you just accept you're gonna have to ignore this for a year and nothing they can say will change it.
It's even better to tell them that.
I don't know about this guy, but its seems like a lot of these older liberals have no idea what's going on in Gaza. Its willful ignorance, because you can just pick up tiktok and you'll see everything, but a lot of the talking points surrounding the election have not changed much outside of the spheres where there's actual coverage of the genocide. honestly it was jarring, i had myself a little thread yesterday and it felt like i'd gone back in time to September.
I think you're being rather kind. There's certainly probably some people who have zero idea. But THIS guy who is terminally forever online (he's a 2016 era Trump reply guy liberal) knows exactly what's happening. All these war mongers that thirsted for Iraqi blood like David Frum and Matt Y (however you spell his dumb last name) and are now doing the same for Gaza and have done the same for every war since Afghanistan and Iraq and further back depending on age... they know, they like it, maybe, at best, they really believe in neoliberal ideology and think this shit makes their lives better, but I doubt it. I think they're just disgusting hollow shells with no ideology, no core morals or beliefs, they just exist to point out what they think are hypocrisies or whatever will get them the most clicks and views.
They're shills for capitalism, liberalism, and death, ultimately. They sell western populations the idea that death abroad is fine. And here are five reasons why we must bomb Gaza, Yemen, whatever.
All of the pro-Iraq War salesman like Frum, Ygelias (again, dumb name) should've been tried and hanged as war propagandists (legally, of course, calm down libs. At the Hague!) 20 years ago. There's obviously a long list BEFORE them, but they should've been on that list. At least stiff sentences. Instead they all have microblogs, nice LA or NYC apartments and homes, and will never face a day of justice in this lifetime (probably, although, who knows). And the list of people who should've been tried before them includes (they're dead already so caaaaaaalm down NSA) Rummy, Powell, and other names I'm not gonna type alongside the phrase "legally executed." Coworkers of theirs though, one could say.
I keep forgetting we have that emote
