You see, hexbear has been moving towards :tux: for quite a while now and it's scaring the :LIB:s and the :fedposting:s so expect a lot of anti-Linux posting and just nod your head and don't engage :penguin-dance:
You see, hexbear has been moving towards :tux: for quite a while now and it's scaring the :LIB:s and the :fedposting:s so expect a lot of anti-Linux posting and just nod your head and don't engage :penguin-dance:
Linux is easy to learn and anyone who says otherwise is being purposefully antagonistic.
I've given linux to some fairly low tech people and they just picked it up like it was nothing. My grandpa even learned how to install games from the software center without even asking me how.
If you're able to track down cryptic windows error messages and fix that black box, doing almost anything on linux is easy as shit and anyone who claims instability hasn't gotten past the initial install and configuration setup.
My desktop will bluescreen once a week on windows with a unique error message every time but Linux doesn't give a fuck. My arch install will go 6 months without an update and then upgrade just fine and continue with life. Ubuntu is slow but its on an abused spinning disk so who can blame it, still plays games.
Both distros discovered my scarlette interface and use it no problem while windows needed drivers. Same deal with my wifi/bluetooth card. Windows needed me to break out my 100ft ethernet cable while linux was like "cool dude this shit is new, I can use it."
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If you're doing it so often have you considered just keeping the USB yourself.
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Tape the USB stick inside the computer.
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90% of the time a basic Ubuntu install doesn't need any configuration unless you're throwing it on a machine with weird hardware. Any dell, HP, or lenovo from the last 10 years that doesn't do wacky tablet things will load Ubuntu problem free.
the 10% of the time is when you get a weird machine, or its 15 years ago and lid-close suspend doesn't work.
Post install setup is needed for windows too, graphics drivers, wireless drivers, etc.
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Okay I'm already trolling but this reads like a 4chan linux hate thread.
I've had some real fights with linux in the past but I get my self in trouble on purpose, I've never experienced things like this.
I'm really curious what machine/device combo you're running that could cause you so much pain.
The last time I experienced something like this was in 2009 when Ubuntu was still orange using a wifi dongle from 2005 and a machine from 2003.
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Huh. Typically if I'm buying a wireless adapter, I'll quickly google "<adapter model> linux" and if i see bad things I pick another. I've only bought two adapters in the last decade though, one a pci model for like 40 bucks.
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I mean it is very fair to want to try it out on what you have, and I'm sorry you had some pain in the ass hardware.
if you want ones that don't require "binary blobs" to work, atheros chips are the ones to look for.
In my experience it is as simple as plug in USB, that's it. Make sure you're buying a compatible USB device and it's plug and play. Non-windows compatible devices are also not plug and plug on windows, that's how it works.
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Who care, you're obviously mad about it so don't bother I guess, my bad for engaging on the subject.
Having installed Windows on a family member's machine somewhat recently I can guarantee that Ubuntu installs quicker and easier than Windows does, no contest.
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Sucks to have hardware that isn't compatible, luck of the draw I guess.
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I guess I don't buy new hardware enough that it's a concern more than once a year at most, maybe if you're buying stuff all the time it's too much to worry about.
I'm sorry but this is not the average experience. Nothing anti Linux, but my grandparents can't even figure out how a bloody iPhone worked
I don't know why they'd be more likely to understand Windows, then. If you don't get computers at all, how would you know the difference?
I installed Ubuntu on my grandmas computer a decade ago and she barely noticed, I just got fewer obscure tech support requests from her. My theory is that Boomer types might struggle but the greatest gen never got comfortable enough with computers to have a significantly harder time with major changes like a new OS
Same thing with my grandpa. I showed him where to click for the internet, where to click for solitaire, and where to click to find files and he figured the rest out.
Think it really depends on the distro. Some are more arcane then others. Some may even be better for boomers since they preserve older design conventions and may be more familiar
Some Snoonet libertarian who uses OpenRC because Systemd was created by a bunch of SJWs at Fedora getting shit on by an oldtimer who has been dealing with shell script init systems since SunOS in the 80s and ditched them the moment it was viable.
Not to throw shade at OpenRC. Just the wierdos who flocked to Gentoo like moths to a flame after every other distro embraced systemd. Fortunately, these folks have mostly been beaten down within the community.
not my experience at all, literally never had a windows pc crash or have driver update problems, all my linux using friends are constantly having to deal with incompatibility or crashing. from my experience as the family/friend tech support, i genuinely think most pc problems in general are user error, on any operating system. i literally dont know how you can be getting a bsod per week, ibe seen maybe one in my entire life. and that was a hardware failure. i get an error maybe once a year or less. on a related note i switched to waterfox based on this comms suggestion and it crashes constantly, and cant even load youtube videos most times. never ever had chrome or edge crash.
edit: and to borrow your rhetorical trick, anyone who says otherwise must be intentionally misleading you.
I think it is hardware failure tbh. Machine is from 2014, ram doesn't match either.
My windows install is just a basic W10 edu license with various steam/epic games and a few ides for embedded stuff installed. Nothing crazy, no viruses. It just likes to shit the bed.
Conversely, I don't think ubuntu/arch notices or cares and will just carry on for weeks on end.
idk what an ide is but i just use the free w10 install and leave the activate windows text on to piss off ol bill hates. i did build all my pcs myself instead of using prebuilts or laptops, which may have helped. id be sus of an edu license honestly if its through school, in my experience school tech support barely knows what theyre doing at best and is filling it full of spyware at worst.
I called the Microsoft support line and played dumb, like I didn't understand why windows wouldn't activate. When they asked for my key, I gave them a random windows 7 key off the internet, and they gave me a free windows 10 key. It only took like five minutes.
Its not through a school account really, I just kept the license key after I graduated and tried it out when I upgraded from my previous windows install (W8.1 embedded)
Its basically a bit better than home and a bit worse than professional I think.
Teach me your ways. I feel like everytime I upgrade my Ubuntu server, some random dependency gets broken.
Ubuntu breaks harder than arch for me usually. No clue what it is. Typically if arch breaks, the issue will be on the front page of arch.org and fixed almost right away. most issues clear up in under 5 minutes.
When Ubuntu breaks it tends to break harder and be more annoying to fix for some reason, in my experience its because the packages on the repos are too stable and so it takes a while for a fix to hit downstream.
That's a really good point. I often find myself having to add some random non-official repo just to get the correct version of some dependency, then a couple of years down the line that repo gets quietly deprecated and I have to scramble to figure out what's going on.
Thats why I really like the more user friendly arch based distros. Installing from scratch has gotten a lot easier than when i first did it, and after my first real arch install I just used antergos until that project closed. Now that the install is easier, I just DIY it but like I said, my installs last a while.
My laptops install is still antergos from 2016, my desktop was fresh 2 years ago when I bought an ssd, and I threw it on a chromebook after chromeos support dropped.
I typically use ubuntu if A: trying to match compatibility with coworkers, or B: want to do Linux gaming without reading a wiki for an hour, or C: its plugged into the TV for streaming stuff.
I love arch for dev tasks but bare arch can be annoying if you set it up 2 years ago and relied on Ethernet then, and now wonder why you have zero wifi related packages. That was a half lie about my wifi card, I did need to install packages on arch but no drivers. Ubuntu was literally out of the box.
Generally though, Arch is very reliable just because it only has what you installed. If you use care and like semi minimal installs it will last forever if you update every few months. It gets complicated when you add tons of stuff without the will to manage it. The AUR is great for weird packages too, you don't have to manually manage tarball installs and random debs.