HasanAbi Reacts to How I Escaped the Alt-Right | Adam Something
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Hasan Piker reacts to How I Escaped the Alt-Right by Adam Something.Original video: https://youtu.be/94_5mXsQTpAStreamed on 8/19/21. VOD Link: https://www.tw...

This guy "used to be" alt-right (i.e. a Hungarian Fascist), then it turns out he's still shit. :surprised-pika:

Original video instead of Hasan clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94_5mXsQTpA

Editing to say I really do hope that all the dunking he's getting on his YouTube posts convinces this guy to read a bit and finally understand why his fascist beliefs were bad in the first place, and why he's wrong.

  • knipexcrunch [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I'm sure you were born as a radical anarcho Maoist...

    Every person I know that's an AES-defending communist started with libshit like contra and Oliver. They are trash, but they're a good entry point. I myself found Hakim because youtube recommended him after I watched a lot of libtube videos.

    We can whine about them here, but I find it very unproductive. Fact is that getting someone into full communism is a layered process, and getting people to realize their system ain't so perfect is the first step, a step which these libs do pretty well. And at the end of the day, I'd take a Hassan or Contra lib over a gamer-slipping-right proto-fascist.

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Nobody here is a well-known YouTuber spreading horseshit. Random comrades can have every dumbass idea they want, it'll have a small reach. Platformed reactionaries serve as propagandists.

      • Vncredleader
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        3 years ago

        People love to throw "maoist" around almost like its a joke, casual sectarianism. If you want to make a joke about some people absurdly lefty and niche, call them a Maoist or a Hoxhaist. They are just joke wacky ideologies to some people

          • Vncredleader
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            3 years ago

            You realize you are breaking the no sectarianism rule? Also Maoism includes the Naxalites and CPP. I'd say they deserve more respect than any of us here posting on a forum

              • Vncredleader
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                3 years ago

                No CPP as in the Philippines. Joma Sison is not an ultra, and I would hope you are not saying the NPA is bad. Sison __Literally _ wrote the book on MLM. Gonzalo can fuck himself, don't stroke his ego in death by giving him reign over the term and ideology http://www.bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/Sison/Sison-OnThePhilosophyOfMarxism-Leninism-Maoism-OCR.pdf Also the Naxalites are also MLMs. This was a conversation here the other day, MLM being just "ultra left Gonzaloism" is only the stance that the shining path themselves believe. Don't flatter them, nor decide that the Naxalites own ideology is not theirs but that they rather wholly fit into a box you're comfortable with. It's like people hit the wall of "MLM is shining path" and "Naxalites are good" and rely on reducing their movement to just Mao Zedong Thought like post-Mao China.

                Let them speak for themselves per their 2004 Party Programme upon the merger of the previous Marxist-Leninist People's War Group (PWG) and then Maoist Communist Center of India (MCCI) which was Maoist (protracted people's war all that) with the new organization being Marxist-Leninist-Maoist. So evidentially they don't agree with the idea that it is at odds with MZT or just means Gonzaloism. http://www.bannedthought.net/India/CPI-Maoist-Docs/Founding/Programme-pamphlet.pdf

                This ideology and culture will be guided by the great ideology of the proletariat, that is, Marxism-Leninism-Maoism. This culture will express its international solidarity with the on-going revolutionary struggles for national liberation, democracy and socialism all over the world by uniting with them in their fight for people’s democratic and socialist culture. It will defeat all types of revisionist ideology and hold high the red banner of the most scientific and developed ideology of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism.

                A strong revolutionary party based on Marxism-Leninism-Maoism as its guiding ideological basis in all matters; that is well-disciplined and built up through revolutionary style and method; that is based on democratic centralism; that links the theory with practice; practises criticism and self-criticism; is closely integrated with the masses and relies firmly upon them; and stands firmly on the class line, mass line and armed struggle.

                I'm not saying you have to be an MLM, but don't just change what the Naxalites are and consider themselves to be in order to make them mesh with an essentialist view. I think its fair to regard them as following what they espouse to follow, instead of saying they just follow what you personally find better. But hey I guess the Naxalites have a "bad ideology" and supporting them is

                trying to be an enlightened pluralist about it is silly. You don’t do Scientific Socialism any favors by acting like every ideology is just as good as every other,

                What was that thing Mao said about investigation? Seriously don't trust the wikipedia tab for "ideology" and leave it at that, and don't do the thing people do to the Zapatistas when they try to mold them into fitting with what is more comfortable for their tendency, at the expense of the actual theory and their actuals. Same site has translations for more CPI-Maoist texts though some I cannot link as they are word docs. http://www.bannedthought.net/India/CPI-Maoist-Docs/#Founding_Documents

                Here is their text outlining Marxism-leninism_Maoism and why they follow it, how they define it. You don't have to agree, it's not my tendency either; but don't just lie and pretend they are not MLM just so you can say you like them without contradicting your absolutist stance. It is literally just not the case, and being ignorant about it is kinda worse than supposedly being an "enlightened pluralist", cause I wouldn't call reading a group's own constitution "acting like every ideology is just as good as every other" http://www.bannedthought.net/India/CPI-Maoist-Docs/Founding/MLM-pamphlet.pdf

                :mao-aggro-shining: follow Mao Zedong Thought:

                No investigation, no right to speak

                • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  we can add the communist party(ies) of Nepal to the list of cool and good maoists, though they re in power already somewhat

                    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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                      3 years ago

                      they were done so dirty by the libs, who just keep praising eco fascism instead of liberation because when you scratch them, as usual, a fash bleeds

        • knipexcrunch [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I had hoped "anarcho maoist" made it obvious that it wasn't a real assertion of their beliefs, but oh well.

          • Vncredleader
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            3 years ago

            Yeah I got that, but that's my point. Maoism is always the go to for absurd joke ideologies. The joke is at the expense of anarchists and maoists

            • knipexcrunch [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              I see. My apologies, I didn't mean it that way but I can see why it would come across like that. I was just trying to come up with the most radical ideology to illustrate my point.

              Personally I lean more towards the maoists, but I definitely didn't mean to insult either group. I will be more careful.

                • knipexcrunch [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  I appreciate your understanding. This place has much better people than Reddit.