The Democrats already go out of their why to impress Republicans bringing people like Powell and Kasich over while snubbing progressives. They take the progressive vote for granted and move hard to the right. Should Biden win there is a real chance that the republican establishment will denounce Trump and will work with Biden to "increase unity and heal the wounds Trump caused", but actually just to continue to wield power. Internally this means only the foulest compromise passing, the county being governed by a giant center-conservative coalition against the left and a few reactionary Trump loyalists. Externally China is the perfect boogyman to unite over. An empire of evil that only a united America that is true to it's roots can overcome. China is a legitimate threat to American conservatism because they show that regular "free" individualist capitalism is inferior to a collective state capitalism. They still manage to increase their populations living standards and build great infrastructure something the west has been incapable of for more or less half a century. Biden has already said that he will not be as "soft" as Trump on "dictators" and will be tough on North Korea, Venezuela, Russia (of course) and China. The democrats don't see the republicans as an enemy to be beaten to the point of no revovery, but an estranged partner, who must be brought to it's senses. For a German like me Trump might be the harm reduction candidate bringing America down faster while Biden might pull our conservative government into suppoerting another war.

You really need other venues than electoralism, like desperatly.

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    In 2016 I said that Clinton was the lesser evil for Americans but Trump was the lesser evil for the rest of the world.

    I'm still convinced that's true with Trump & Biden.

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      All depends on which country. Trump's foreign policy has been worse for South Africa than Clinton's would've been (spreading of the white farm murders lie anyone?), but Trump is better for Venezuela for example as he's too incompetent to pull off a coup.

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      We wouldn't have fucking Bolsonaro in Brazil if it wasn't for Trump, surely they would have still stopped Lula/Hadad with some neoliberal shitstain, but Marielle Franco and thousands of people would still be alive.

      Yet with Clinton president, there surely be another new war in the ME or maybe even Vzla by now.

      I hate this fucking world

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        but Marielle Franco and thousands of people would still be alive

        I don't know if Marielle Franco would be alive, the paramilitary aparatus that killed her was already around long before Trump came to office. You can argue that they wouldn't have the balls to do it without the Trump/Bolsonaro "hivemind", and altough with her that might be the case, this wouldn't have stopped them from killing other people. I still agree that Trump is terrible for Brazil in terms of giving power to Bolsonaro's right, but Hilary could have started a war in Venezula, which would have probably led to a military figure in power by 2022.

        All & all, the fall of the US Empire will be brutal for the colonies. And being in south america (US's "backyard") we will probably suffer the most.

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          the paramilitary aparatus that killed her was already around long before Trump came to office

          Yeah you are right, I wish we all could be shitting on Lula/Dilma instead of having to shit on a cartoonishly evil ghoul.

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          In the voters mentality, "hey the yankis elected an openly racist mysoginist nationalist backed by evangelicals and others fringe idiots, and they are like smart and shit so voting this openly racist and mysoginist <<nationalist>> backed by evangelicals and fringe idiots would be like dope".

          No lie, whatever happens in the imperial core have lots of consequences for the colonies. All around the world racists felt validated, so lots of motherfuckers wanted to be the next Trump, Bolsonaro is Brazil's Trump.

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            This :10000-com: Same thing happened in South Africa with the VF+, went from fringe white supremacist party to getting 5% of the vote. This led to the main opposition party firing their black leader and taking a hard turn right in order to appeal to voters lost to the VF+

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              ha haha ha, fucking kill me and I don't even live there.

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              DA is taking a right wing turn? Color me surprised (pun intended), the white liberal party is going right wing. I've heard EFF is doing way better than previously too though. Shit could get dicey in SA in the future.

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                EFF actually had a small decline in the last election if I remember correctly. Also not a fan of the EFF, they take the energy that could be aimed at a legitimate left wing party and shove it down their corrupt champagne socialist throats. All they're good for is talking points and awareness in parliament