• Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Lolita is not pornography, AO3 is utterly full of pornography featuring underage characters.

    • Reversi [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      On the basis of having an "underage" warning, or

      is there something more to this

      • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        It's very suspicious that you seem to be defending this. Literally all you have to do is go to the Harry Potter section and tick the boxes for "underage" and "explicit" to find that there are 6k stories marked with those terms there. Sort by likes and you find that the third ""best"" story under these conditions is about Draco Malfoy knotting Harry Potter or some shit. I'm not gonna read any of these stories to confirm, but the top two there are probably also pedo shit.

        • Reversi [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I was wondering when the "how suspicious" line would come out, see my other post in this thread

          Anyway

          So assuming I'm doing this right, based on there being about out million fanfics on there, ticking the boxes, doing some division... looks like 2.4% of those stories have the underage warning, and it becomes... 1.1% when filtered for 'explicit'

          ... So that's obviously not good by any measure, but I'll be honest, you made it sound pretty fucking bad when that seems... normal by Internet standards? Though Internet standards are depraved in themselves, so

          Maybe you know some shit about this I don't

          • ssjmarx [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            1.1% when filtered for ‘explicit’

            Unpopular opinion: any amount of explicit content featuring underaged characters is too much.

          • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            The point is that this is not against AO3's rules and is in fact supported. It's not like these stories are hidden, this is what the site is for. They're not going to remove these stories because they want these stories on their site.

            • Reversi [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              I see what you mean

              That said, reconsider passively accusing a poster of being a pedophile over... two posts

                • Reversi [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Really, that's your takeaway after two posts looking for clarification and another getting a sense of how bad things are on a specific site

                  We're on the same side, believe it or not

                  • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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                    3 years ago

                    If you hadn't come at me out of the gate comparing this stuff to Lolita I wouldn't be so hostile toward you. When you do shit like that, you look like a pedo reaching for any way to dishonestly shift the conversation away from the fact that the content Ao3 gladly and openly hosts is unacceptable. Because it is otherwise very difficult to believe that an honest person could see any resemblance between Lolita, a piece of literature about a pedophile, and the stories on Ao3, which are pornography written by and for pedophiles.

                    • Reversi [none/use name]
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                      3 years ago

                      Hence why I deferred to you on this, I don't know the culture of AO3

                      And after looking up what "knotting" is, I feel... way too online

            • NeverForgo [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah, if anybody thinks 1% is anywhere close to acceptable, what the fuck is their problem? Like what????

              • Reversi [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                It's not "acceptable" in the same way that there's no amount of murders that's "acceptable," but based on sites like Deviantart it seems like that's the average

                Which is not good, because it shouldn't be there to make an average in the first place, but unfortunately it is

            • Reversi [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              The normal proportion is much closer to 0 for a number of reasons, not the least of which being such things being understandably banned in a number of countries.

              If it was formally regulated by a government body, sure, but given how much cartoon/anime/manga has characters that trend lower, I would assume that Deviantart has more than 1% of questionable/obscene content like that--Deviantart's the biggest art site I know, that's the baseline I was using

              The way sexualized Evangelion stuff gets posted even though the characters are 13, for example, is baffling, but it just... gets posted nonetheless

          • NeverForgo [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Uhhhhhhhhh…. 1% of content being CP is not normal under any standards. That’s a shit ton.