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  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Forget about the specific goverment, because that's largely not the important part. As materialists, we believe that the mode of production primarily shapes society.

    Fascists largely maintain the current mode of production, as do social democrats. They aren't really revolutionary in any sense other than aesthetic, and that's why they will get large support from bourgeois in order to prevent revolutionary movements from gaining power.

    • Malspoken [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      No. Modern day fascists are actually revolutionary minded by definition. Social Democrats are not revolutionary minded. Even aestheticly. The social aspects in the states are undeniably as important as the material conditions of people. Marx ignored it and couldn't figure out why the US never mad a leftward lurch. There's a social aspect to Marxism that he completely missed which is why Marx is a fun read but is ultimately outdated

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Social Democrats are not revolutionary minded. Even aestheticly.

        Correct, and my implication this was the case was accidental.

        Nothing about the social aspect of society disproves that the SPD acted in defense of capitalism, and thereby assisted the fascists in their rise.

        which is why Marx is a fun read but is ultimately outdated

        Undoubtedly, there are outdated aspects of Marxism, but with a statement like that, you're going to need to produce more evidence than nothing at all.

        • Malspoken [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Bruh. You haven't produced shit for evidence. Don't start.

          • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Fascists are not revolutionary. They have no desire to reform the system; they just want to be the ones in charge. They step into existing structures of power, and declare themselves the new leaders. If they can steal power, that proves their worthiness over the ones who lost it.