China still has a lot of dommestic coal power plants, as of 2020 56.8% of China's power was from coal, and the UK just recently re-opened one of our old ones to meet demand. so while this does curb the growth of coal power in places China invests with development projects, it's by far not an 'end' to coal
China still has a lot of dommestic coal power plants, as of 2020 56.8% of China’s power was from coal
Thing is, it was in the 70+% just 5 years ago and the vast majority of what replaced it proportionaly is renewables and neuclear. They could be doing even better of course but such a reduction for a developing country of a 1.4 billion people with constantly increasing energy demands is a big and important in and of itself
RadLibs / Ultras:
:le-pol-face: "How dare China not immediately blow up all of their coal plants, they clearly aren't communist."
Do you see anybody saying this ITT? Or do you just enjoy making yourself angry.
"I imagine my enemies saying dumb things which upset me, how could you tell?" :gigachad-hd:
Hmm? No, it's just a common talking point every single time China makes measurable (but not immediate) progress.
Dunking on :reddit-logo: and having fun, I would hope that sort of liberalism wouldn't be here.
Longer mulling over of the subject:
I've especially noticed this sort of response with ultras, who tend to fixate on idealism and view any progress that isn't immediate and complete as somehow a failure. Sad way to live, since it is often fairly easy with this mindset to continually shift the goalposts regardless of what is done. It's the sort of behavior that Lenin criticized as being "an infantile disorder".
This isn't intended as being sectarian as I don't think(?) most leftists identify as ultras. Regardless, I'm merely describing the behavior and Lenin's response to that sort of dogmatism.
It'd be more common but plenty of radlibs just quote China's net emissions and leave it at that. Once they learn what 'per capita' means and that China is making ecological strides then they move onto that take
yes i forgot overseas sorry .... my bad .... :sadness:
stopping the growth of emissions is still good, especially as China invests in a lot of developing economies and so setting them up for more sustainable power grids long term as their economies develop is good. but China's use of so much coal is still one of their major issues that thy have tried really hard to work on slowly, but is very much a massive problem
this anarchist uncritically(you don't want to critically support anything nuclear) supports the based melty salt
it's so unfortunate that we've got to the point where "the only way out is forward"
i mean we're probably fucked beyond repair, but if there's any sort of hope it lies on countries running on all cylinders as they invest on energy research
kinda like riding a car whose brakes won't work unless you keep accelerating........ towards a brick wall...... hoping you will actually manage to stop before you hit it
frantically building wings onto the side of the vehicle as it accelerates, hoping to get lift over the top
The Wasabi to the Chilli of Uranium. All hail the slightly less spicy rock.
coal electricity share is in the mid 80s somewhere. you're thinking of primary energy, which is just below 58 and decreasing. their primary energy greenness is on par with vietnam and better than all the western-centric countries in south-east asia. thing with measuring primary energy is that it shows an oversized oil share because when you electrify you cut of 2/3-5/6th of the total because electrification is more energy effective. so in practical terms a measure of the greenness of the economy is a figure somewhere between those
He also said they'll be investing in green alternatives, for anyone worried about leaving those countries stranded
"China will step up support for other developing countries in developing green and low-carbon energy, and will not build new coal-fired power projects abroad," Xi told the General Assembly. He did not lay out a timeline to end that financing, but the country has not directed any funding from its Belt and Road Initiative toward coal power plants so far this year.
South Africa's plan to supply coal to everyone has been completely fucked. Gwede Mantashe, the energy minister who practically makes love to fossil fuels every night, was seen crying in the corner, repeatedly saying that "South Africa will never run out of coal" and "clean coal is a game changer" through the tears
True, I was just using it as an opportunity to dunk on Mantashe lol
