:maybe-later-kiddo: Childhood is agreeing with Dr. Bashir, adulthood is realizing Section 31 did nothing wrong, sweetie. They're the Hard Men Making Hard Choices™, the Rough Men Standing Ready To Do Violence™ that keep unpatriotic libcuck soyboys like Bashir safe from the barbarian alien hordes. You may not like them, but even you must admit the Federation needs them to survive. The only thing that can stop the bad guys are our own bad guys who don't play by any rules. Sorry kiddo, that's how the real world works.

:le-pol-face: What do you mean Section 31 aren't necessary? What do you mean their schemes constantly blow back and put the Federation in greater jeopardy than if they had just not done anything in the first place? No, they're efficient! They do the things the civilian government is too weak to do! If you think otherwise you're just an ignorant naive soyboy who thinks we can just be nice and get along with everyone!

:wojak-nooo: Stop laughing at them! They're cool! They dress in badass black uniforms and nobody gets to tell them what to do! They go on secret missions! They're tier one operators! How can you not think tier one operators are cool!?!? Come on, O P E R A T O R S!

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      If God exists and this universe is actualy any good we might get a good RLM mini-review out of that show and that is as close as you should get to watching any Kurtzman shit.

        • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          80% of the hate is because Lower Decks was the name of a TNG episode where the show finaly shows the average day of the lower ranked officers so it was already risky to literally use the same name. It was realy well received and over time people were always hoping that this could be a great concept for a new Trek show.

          I haven't seen LD so I don't doubt it is better than Picard/Discovery but the problem is that what we got certainly didn't match anyone's hopes and expectations(worst thing you can do to an old fandom is to "subvert their expectations") and it probably kills the concept for the foreseeable future.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            That is literally the concept for the series. It's based off that episode and the main characters are ensigns.

    • MeatfuckerDidNothing [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Oh God. Their immediate response to emperor Georgou should have been to toss her into a max security therapists office and community farm, not to let her captain a ship and do war crimes

      • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Agreed, also Starfleet allowing Section 31 agents in black leather uniforms to walk around the ship interfering with shit because why not.