I’m only being somewhat reductive. Forced re-education like Cuba did in some cases should be a part of it. Even so, Fidel and the Cuban revolutionaries executed a bunch of the wealthiest slaveowners. It’s a pity some of the Gusanos escaped.
At what point did I say there shouldn’t be social programs and humanism? Ask Allende how far obsessing over reconciliation and class collaboration worked out.
Imagine thinking that the Chinese people executing the feudal landlords was “unrestrained”. They should learn better from western white people next time.
Letting someone live who will murder you and everyone you care about to preserve a system that depends on human misery is weakness and liberalism.
what a profoundly reckless ideological wreckage you perpetuate here
The examples you give are either defensive (killing the landlords, who were killing peasants) or justice (executing slaveowners who had killed many after the revolution). They didn't kill all the Gusanos, just the ones that had committed heinous violence and were sentenced to death.
That’s exactly what I’m talking about. You kill the ones who have committed heinous violence or will commit heinous violence to regain control.
Does anyone think we should hypothetically leave Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk alive after a successful revolution? No, they would do everything they could to seize power and topple a communist movement.
Once you take power, you literally have to kill everyone who would commit acts of horrible violence against the revolution and the proletariat.
You can't just kill everyone you think might be a threat in the future, Ms. Pol Pot.
No, they would do everything they could to seize power and topple a communist movement.
So? Take all their shit, and if they respond with violence, then kill them in defense. Alternately, try them for their crimes and execute them if it's warranted. This is usually how things go. You don't kill people before they commit the crime because you're pretty sure they will after.
Apologies, my mistake - I'll edit the post. My point is you need evidence of wrongdoing. You can't kill people you think will do wrong in the future.
I have no problem with killing enemies of the revolution given the right situation, but they actually have to be guilty in a way that warrants execution.
At what point did I say there shouldn’t be social programs and humanism? Ask Allende how far obsessing over reconciliation and class collaboration worked out.
you dont understand these terms, i take it.
Imagine thinking that the Chinese people executing the feudal landlords was “unrestrained”. They should learn better from western white people next time.
you couldnt help yourself from a classic race card strawman double decker.
Letting someone live who will murder you and everyone you care about to preserve a system that depends on human misery is weakness and liberalism.
first you know that they in the future are going to commit horrible acts of violence, now you know they are going to murder ..
like, imagine going on defensive like this after outright stating that one should kill everybody who you assume will retaliate with violence. my person. one thing is proceeding with a tribunal verdict. one thing is employing violence in response to conditions as they occur. what you're thinking is very far in some deep dark place
I’m only being somewhat reductive. Forced re-education like Cuba did in some cases should be a part of it. Even so, Fidel and the Cuban revolutionaries executed a bunch of the wealthiest slaveowners. It’s a pity some of the Gusanos escaped.
At what point did I say there shouldn’t be social programs and humanism? Ask Allende how far obsessing over reconciliation and class collaboration worked out.
Imagine thinking that the Chinese people executing the feudal landlords was “unrestrained”. They should learn better from western white people next time.
Letting someone live who will murder you and everyone you care about to preserve a system that depends on human misery is weakness and liberalism.
muh civility
The examples you give are either defensive (killing the landlords, who were killing peasants) or justice (executing slaveowners who had killed many after the revolution). They didn't kill all the Gusanos, just the ones that had committed heinous violence and were sentenced to death.
That’s exactly what I’m talking about. You kill the ones who have committed heinous violence or will commit heinous violence to regain control.
Does anyone think we should hypothetically leave Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk alive after a successful revolution? No, they would do everything they could to seize power and topple a communist movement.
You can't just kill everyone you think might be a threat in the future, Ms. Pol Pot.
So? Take all their shit, and if they respond with violence, then kill them in defense. Alternately, try them for their crimes and execute them if it's warranted. This is usually how things go. You don't kill people before they commit the crime because you're pretty sure they will after.
Don’t misgender me.
So yeah, kill them. Go through whatever steps make you feel better.
Apologies, my mistake - I'll edit the post. My point is you need evidence of wrongdoing. You can't kill people you think will do wrong in the future.
I have no problem with killing enemies of the revolution given the right situation, but they actually have to be guilty in a way that warrants execution.
Thanks. Best insult during a stupid online argument I’ve gotten so far.
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Thank u, I try. :stalin-approval:
you dont understand these terms, i take it.
you couldnt help yourself from a classic race card strawman double decker.
first you know that they in the future are going to commit horrible acts of violence, now you know they are going to murder ..
like, imagine going on defensive like this after outright stating that one should kill everybody who you assume will retaliate with violence. my person. one thing is proceeding with a tribunal verdict. one thing is employing violence in response to conditions as they occur. what you're thinking is very far in some deep dark place
You’re now literally arguing against a sentence I never wrote lmao
im highlighting an important thought, not quoting you directly.
Okay bruh good talk lol