updoots to the left

edit: thanks for the gold kind hexbearritor! tip of my hat to you m'gentlesir!

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    This is like getting gold for saying "cheeto" and nothing else, except it's after 2016 so the joke has been made already like 100 times

  • Shrek
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    3 years ago

    deleted by creator

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        1984 is a terrible book that gets so much wrong that what it gets right is basically coincidence.

        Also it was meant to be about Socialist societies, not Capitalist ones, which... lmao.

        What I'm saying is: don't hand it to Orwell. He was extremely wrong, and the depiction in 1984 of how people fall for propaganda isn't even close to reality.

        Edit: I don't mean to jump on you here. I just really think the book isn't good.

    • doggydog2 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      wtf is this article :what-the-hell: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/04/china/xinjiang-detective-torture-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

      • cresspacito [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        In order to help verify his testimony, Jiang showed CNN his police uniform, official documents, photographs, videos, and identification from his time in China, most of which can't be published to protect his identity.

        So I skimmed through and couldn't see any of it. It's the same with all of these fucking articles. 0 hard evidence. Literally "I know a guy". Are you calling me and my guy a liar?

        • doggydog2 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          ive been trying to look into these articles cuz i remember seeing claims similar to the ones in it for a couple years now.

          suspiciously enough every article has the same usual suspects :soviet-hmm:

          Ivan Watson, "During his time with CNN, Watson has roamed across the world, reporting on a wide range of stories. Most recently, he played a key role covering Hong Kong’s Umbrella Revolution pro-democracy movement. " https://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/watson.ivan.html Ben Westcott, another CNN Hong Kong rep,

          and Abduweli Ayup: the 2nd guy interviewed in the article. "Mr. Abduweli Ayup is a Uyghur linguist, currently living in Bergen, Norway, as a Fellow with the International Cities of Refuge Network (ICORN). He received his Master's Degree in Linguistics from the University of Kansas in 2011. After returning to China, he promoted social and cultural rights through promotion of Uyghur-language education. He was imprisoned in 2013-2014, and suffered months of incommunicado detention and torture. His career as a human-rights defender and advocate for linguistic rights is covered in an in-depth UHRP report published in May 2019, "Abduweli Ayup and the Movement for Uyghur Mother Tongue-Based Education."" listed right next to my boy zenz https://www.hillhappenings.com/list/2020/2/18/the-ordeal-of-a-uyghur-county-case-records-of-mass-detention

          also it seems like they added an element of gang r*** by inmates to his story?? https://uyghurtribunal.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/04-1710-JUN-21-UTFW-013-Abduweli-Ayup-English-1.pdf

          also :1984: Abduweli Ayup, a 47-year-old Uyghur language teacher currently in exile in Norway, has read Nineteen Eighty-Four in three languages, and recognises Winston Smith’s ordeals. When I spoke to him, he told me that, starting in 2015, after being accused of militant separatism, he spent 15 months enduring detention and torture, and being pressured to confess to separatist extremism. He recalled that watching broadcast confessions while in detention in Urumqi had an extraordinary effect. “Some of my cellmates told the same story they heard on TV,” he says. “They made those stories become their own story.” https://www.newstatesman.com/world/asia/2020/07/how-orwell-foretold-remaking-xinjiang

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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            Abduweli Ayup, a 47-year-old Uyghur language teacher currently in exile in Norway, has read Nineteen Eighty-Four in three languages, and recognises Winston Smith’s ordeals.

            Absolutely and completely beyond parody.

        • doggydog2 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          oh yea if u check the vid (THAT AUTOPLAYS) on the top theres like blanked out paper printouts of some pics of him wearing a police uniform w the cnn dude. can't make shit else out about them tho.

    • apparitionist [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      They think they’re the most open minded and forward thinking people on the planet, while in reality they’re incredibly misguided and they’re spitting in the faces of every single person who died in the last few hundred years, while fighting to rid ourselves from tyranny.

      Fact: The CCP is a tyranny. Fact: the US is a democracy. No matter how much you try to play mind games, these facts are indisputable.

      user posts in /r/JoeRogan and /r/Cryptocurrency

      • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I remember not too long ago there was a study (one of the only of its kind, it sadly seems) that actually looked at the extent the United States could be characterized as a democracy, and it found that ordinary people have basically no influence and mostly only get what they want from the electoral system if their interests happen to align with wealthier, more powerful interests.

        That shit used to circulate all over reddit, but now we have to pretend we don't suck as much to claim the ever-phony moral high-ground over China.

        https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

  • notaleph [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    China bad

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-05/china-billionaire-crackdown-common-prosperity

    '"excessive"'

  • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    At least the reply had the decency to post a line from the book/show rather than lazily repeat the one joke (tm)

  • Snackuleata [any]
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    3 years ago

    Who are the Heffalumps and Woozles of geopolitics? To steal Pooh's honey?