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  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Solzhenitsyn

    If you're making a point of walking around in public with a copy of Gulag Archipelago (a work of fiction which was mocked by his wife), I'm likelier to assume you're some sort of Nazi than anything else.

    • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      solzhenitsyn was an actual proponent of bringing back the russian empire. also deeply antisemitic. the dude was a crackpot whose work bears no relation to reality. anyone who has read his deranged scrawlings and thinks he's some kind of reliable source is an actual moron.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        anyone who has read his deranged scrawlings and thinks he’s some kind of reliable source is an actual moron.

        Every liberal BTFO.

        • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          well, not every liberal since most of them don't even bother to read the shit they wave at us as "proof" of how evul marxism is. why read a whole book and have to actually critically think about something when you could just get told by a suit on the news/on the internet that the book agrees with your preconceived biases?

  • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Having spent some time in East Germany when it was East Germany, I’ve seen the statues of Marx and Engels, but I have no soft spot for them. The best thing that came out of East Germany is Angela Merkel.

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      :agony-limitless: East Germans who say this shit should have their homes taken away and given to random people so that they get to feel like the rest of their (less privileged) countrymen.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        "spent some time in East Germany when it was East Germany" usually means they're West Germans who used to visit relatives in the DDR.

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Same solution applies, really. Make them go through what they did to East Germans during "reunification".

          Note: this is a joke, no one should have their residence taken away like that. If it had happened to people like this, though, it may have taught them some perspective and empathy.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    Grimes didn’t actually read the book and neither did these dweebs, out of all ideologies liberals are the ones most uncomfortable with anything that challenges their worldview or value system, not because they would agree with the criticism but cause they don’t understand their own ideology to understand the critique, which gives them identity anxiety

    • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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      3 years ago

      Me trying to read Capital and realizing that it's actually a hyper dry economic treatise probably helped me de-lib my brain.

      edit: for context I was one of those capitalism understander who thinks that capitalism is when you trade, and that communist doesn't know what supply and demand is

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Marx failed to consider that his prose was lacking.

    The manifesto is designed specifically to be easily digestible, trying to say that you easily understand it as some kind of own is just really strange behaviour.

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      It's literally a pamphlet meant for "working men of all countries", many of which obviously didn't have access to the greatest educations.

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Coming from someone who read a fuckload of Tolstoy in his younger years... it's not that smart. It's mostly a rich progressive feeling bad for being rich but not doing much.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    They're not wrong. If she was actually informed about theory and not just play acting revolutionary thinking, she would probably be reading one of his actual more academic or historical critiques and not just the manifesto. That being said, the smoothbrains that read jezebel probably don't understand the manifesto or the context of the creation of manifesto and why it's not an academic styled work any more than grimes does, and any sort of critique is steeped in liberal ideology. As if getting an 'A' in a literature class really indicates a comprehensive understanding and critique of the material.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Tbf, Marx didn't think that we would be reading the manifesto as his sole work in the American Canon. This is really more on the editors and publishers heads.

  • richietozier4 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Never ask:

    A woman her age

    A man his salary

    Solzhenitsyn his opinion on jews

  • richietozier4 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    grimes enters her cringe era

    She entered that when she married the muskrat

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      What kind of “scathing take down” can you do of a protest in pamphlet form?

      I'm imagining that they explained, using half-remembered Economics 101, why the demands of the protesters would be bad for the economy.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      So many people read the Manifesto in high school and think that they are now “familiar with Marx.”

      In fairness, they're more familiar with him than the kids who grew up never knowing the guy existed.

      The Manifesto is a historical document, not a scientific one. It’s a polemic listing demands, and should be read in the context of the Revolutions of 1848, which made realizing those demands a possibility. What kind of “scathing take down” can you do of a protest in pamphlet form?

      Presumably the same take-down you could write around The US Declaration of Independence or the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen. You're taking a moral position opposed to the views and beliefs set out in the document and establishing why your position in stronger.

      But that’s a very broad statement, and even a (hypothetical) cogent objection to these elements would not constitute a “take down of the whole thing.”

      This person got an A and that means the person's views are superior to the document they refuted. Maybe if you write a document that refutes their document and you get an A, then you can claim you are right and they are wrong.

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I dunno what it is but that second comment has Nathan Fielder energy; "I graduated from one of Canada's top business schools with really good grades"

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      It's got the seeds of a Marine Todd story. Professor made me read Marx. I proved him wrong in a single essay, aced the class, and everyone clapped.