Seriously miserable people. Lighten up!
There's a Chapo bit from a long time ago where they put it down to chuds getting too angry before the punchline. Like, the set up of the joke will be bog standard, but then they'll pivot to whatever culture war bullshit is occupying their mind at the moment.
Watching conservative stand up "comedy" is self harm.
Libertarian-ish dudes-rock conservative comedy is fine. Its typically some kind of Marine-Todd-esque tall tail that is funny precisely because its so overblown. Bert Kreischer's "The Machine" bit about accidentally joining the Russian Mob because he was too cool for school gets plenty of laughs. Ben Stein doing the dry nasal bow-tie conservative routine is funny because you view the incessant whiny annoyance as an act. Ron Swanson as the Epic Frontiersman stuck rebelling against a lame bureaucratic do-nothing job is funny because of the absurd contradictions. Funnier still when his best friend ends up being Aubrey Plaza, the caricature of a lazy shiftless millennial do-nothing who embodies all the things conservatives say they hate.
And Donald Trump's catty mean-girl tweets and quips are hilarious when they're aimed at puffed up liberal phonies, cliquish newsies, and other incompetent empty-suit conservative cronies. Funnier still when he goes off to our eternal mortal enemy North Korea and starts fawning all over Kim Jung Un, because Kim actually appears to have the kind of public adoration that Donald craves back home.
When conservative comedy abandons the fascist fear-mongering and embraces anarchist/primitivist roots, or loses sight of itself and engages in a bit of much-needed self-crit, its genuinely pretty good. But when its just Dennis Miller whining about how Kids Today Don't Respect Their Elders or Joe Rogan and Jon Lovitt start whining about too much "diversity" in modern media, it fucking sucks. Just washed up has-beens crying about how other comedians are too mean to them. Awful.
I was thinking more of stuff like this where the guy does "Iran bad" and "wife bad" jokes within one minute.
Probably the world's first and only anti-abortion stand-up routine!
You know you're a good comedian when you have convinced yourself that you're the first guy to think of a joke.
These days I pretty much only listen to lesbians talk about their incomprehensibly bizarre dating life in NYC. It's like staring in to an alternate dimension of wonder and horror in equal measure.
Joe many liberals does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
None, their too busy? Their gender!
Conservative comedy is just them listing stuff that makes them mad.
I'm reminded of this line from a Folding Ideas critique of the truly awful Nostalgia Critic satire of The Wall:
Doug wants to be a filmmaker, he wants to make art, but he can't, because he's a fundamentally incurious person who isn't much interested in what other people think or feel and all his ideas boil down to 'what if Batman met Mario?'
Also Ben Shapiro's origin story. Tried to be a screenwriter, failed because he is devoid of empathy, went alt-right commentator instead.
"It's really not that vague Doug. Not vague at all."
That part broke me, and not in a laugh-out-loud way. His misunderstanding of the work is so bad and wrong that it is genuinely, literally offensive
they are the kind of people that do racism in the style of a knock knock joke, and then blame cancel culture in communist hollywood.
Their sense of humor is stuck in the early 2000's when the Marlon Brothers were considered funny and people didn't cringe as much at Adam Sandler's shitty movies. Their Lady Ballers movie or whatever it's called is basically that type of humor with shock-jock stuff thrown in to be edgy.
Only problem is that they can't commit too long before they get angry and start making their jokes more of a lecture.
Not only that, I have noticed that it seems most of them are incapable of understanding metaphor, almost entirely. I believe that it's related to to an inability or lack of desire to see things outside the frame of their own perspective, like comrade_pibb mentions in thier post above RE: art in film. Maybe it is also related to living in a state of constant, crippling fear.
my brain processes dyed hair the same way my ancestors' brains processed a surprise alligator, this is cool and normal
right wingers have no sense of humour
Not true!
They have "[slur]! Hurr Durr!", "Are you triggered???!!!" and "I identify as an attack helicopter! Hurr Durr!" That's three jokes for you, right there.
Because the average right winger is someone who has ambient bigotry installed into their brains through a lifetime of not needing to care. A standup comedian doing a conservative act has gone off the deep end and allowed a combination of their own insecurities and racial panic to cloud their brains.
Every public right-wing media figure seems to have a whole list of weird emotional baggage they've never dealt with. Like they'll be in the closet, or have daddy issues, or they got bullied in high school. And they never let that stuff go or went to therapy
Comedy for them is the idea that people they regard as lesser could ever be equal to them
I've bothered in the past to punch up some conservative jokes so they'd still be hateful and conservative but also y'know, function as jokes to see if its possible. Totally is, in form you can construct half decent conservative jokes but I don't think you can if you're a conservative, doing good mocking humor still requires the ability to put yourself in another's shoes to an extent, you've gotta be able to understand what you're shitting on to do it well, and they don't have that.
Oh yes, it's definitely possible. But it's not possible for conservative comedians, because their brains are swiss cheese. Conservatives don't respect comedians, they only respect extremely wealthy white men, or soldiers, or car dealership owners. Any conservative comedian is going to have internal self-hatred built into it.
I've seen a few chuds doing open mike or small shows at a local comedy venue I go to sometimes. They're always like that. It's always like a one-man surreal theater where you watch a guy grapple with emotional trauma he's externalized as hatred of women or gay people or whatever. It's exactly like you said, they can't see the perspective of anyone else because they're wrapped in a bubble of self-loathing they're refusing to acknowledge
I'm more situational humor than a stand up kinda guy, like I'm hilarious, no brag just fact irl, but it's not joke telling to someone, it's joking around with someone based. Like, I can improv super well but improv is just theater kids and they aren't funny. I'm funny in person cause I set people up to set set me up for punchlines, or just being really good at quips. I'd like to have a go at stand up but I'm afraid all I'd do is crowd work cause thst feels safe as hell to me. I just make people around me the straight man and work from that.
I've heard that comedy is when you suddenly upend expectations in a shocking or unexpected way, ie the punchline. And since fash like things to be predictable, maybe they just can't do humor bc they don't like that sudden surprise? So they just yell slurs to be smug in their sadism?
I posted above that I did punch up a conservative comedy routine, kept the content and spirit of the jokes but made them into jokes. This can totally be done from a conservative perspective and you can get jokes that are bad socially but conceivably funny. They're just really bad at joke making and I think you've got some of the reason there.
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