I want to get into cybersecurity. I am willing to learn about it and do the job effectively. My dumbfuck cornfed manager said they want to make sure i have a "passion" for it. No, i will not think about cybersecurity day and night like i'm in love with it, you dumb fuck middle manager.
Idk, man. I think there's a genuine leftist vibe to the saying "love what you do and you'll never work a day in your life". There are definitely career paths where the pay is mediocre but the sense of fulfillment is overwhelming.
The problem is that most of these career paths are in fucking Cuba.
American businesses are, by intent or consequence, all about profit margin and growth rate. Nothing else matters because nothing else is allowed to matter. I would love to work at a business that was genuinely invested in the Good Vibes. And I know there are more than a few that cultivate that as a secondary concern. Everyone I've talked to who works at H.E.B. practically glows with approval when they talk about how that business is managed, in no small part because they honestly do seem to invest in their workforce and cultivate a certain degree of compassion towards staff. But they only get to do that shit because the firm is entirely privately owned, successfully operated, and not beholden to a bunch of vampiric outside investors. Even then, they're tethered to credit just like everyone else. And their owners are absurdly wealthy, long past the point at which their labor contributes to the operation of the firm.
It would be incredibly cool if you could invest in your career like you invest in a personal hobby or craft and not end up ruthlessly exploited. It should be that way. People having a passion for what they do shouldn't be seen as a fucking weakness in their character that some other asshole can exploit.
This 100%.
Why the fuck should I be passionate about a job I ONLY do because it aligns with my skills and I AM ACTUALLY ONLY THERE FOR MONEY just like everyone else at work.
How interesting that there is never the pressure on bosses to accept less and give more for the sake of passion, despite them being paragons that we should all strive to emulate.
No one is angry at grocery stores for shirking its trusted duties in being the source of food for people, and just raising its prices because it can. No one complains about rent-seeking and anyone who does is called a dumb naive kid for not thinking that shareholder value is literally the most important thing in the universe.
No but you see, they're more passionate about money than you. They're sacrificing the risk of losing their passion(money) when their workers aren't passionate about work
I can't stand this shit. Managers are really out here trying to push the narrative that people DESIRE with their whole being to toil away in a particular field, because when you're "passionate" about something, you don't really care about the pay. The whole fuckin spiel is doublespeak for "I want someone who will be happy to be exploited"
I was a middle manager for about a year and I definitely thought about how beneficial it would be to my staff if I was dead instead of being the mouthpiece for some executive shit heel.
That’s all middle managers are, people that either get naively tricked into thinking they can make it better, or people who believe in the corporate mantra and are really gung-ho about representing the fake ideals of some fat cat exec. I was the first one, and it completely changed my already cynical perspective cuz at the end of the day, I was still just a mouthpiece for some stooge in a suit.
I tell my manager that the quickest way for me to lose my passion is not getting money from it lol
WHAAAAAAT?!?1!?
You’re telling me that you don’t derive all your enjoyment of a job from the labor and reward of seeing the company thrive????
Seeing your boss pull into the parking lot with a brand new $90,000 BMW doesn’t instill a sense of purpose for you in the compa… I mean family?
When would you say you lost your “passion”?
I expect an awkward meeting with HR and the boss like: "We're concerned about your passion for this career. What's going on?" Ibthink they figure if they get you to admit that you've lost interest on record, they can can you with less fear that you'll collect unemployment.
Remember kids: Always be vague about why your numbers have dropped. Say you're doing your best, act like youre taking their advice, and when it fails, say you tried it and you're sorry. If they offer a severance, read the terms and make sure it's not an admission of fault.
Those 6 months of unemployment pay are the only glimpses of freedom most of us get. Don't let them deny you your respite
tell them you wont talk about sexual matters at work
Yeah I fucking hate that shit too. I just put on my corpo mask on and nod along to their deranged bullshit and respond in kind with the same buzzwords like fucking chatGPT. If it's a big company nobody actually expects true passion out of you, you just need to say the words.
If you listen to any of the dumb takes from ThePrimeagen (some silicon valley fuckhead) he basically expects all people in any job to have a deep passion for it and dedicate their entire life to it working at 110% forever. And that anyone who doesn't do this should basically die. A lot of people in tech are completely detached from reality and I hate all of them.
I don't really think I've had "I want to do this for eight hours a day" amounts of passion for literally anything in my life. Shit, sometimes I wonder if i've ever had sincere passion for anything in general.
I've had that kind of passion for a variety of things throughout my life. Gardening, certain competitive games, books, and so on. Unfortunately ever since I got a job that passion has dwindled
The problem for me is that I genuinely do love the lab work that forms the core of my job, what saps my passion is all the corporate bullshit that surrounds it. Time keeping for the bean counters, pointless corporate bureaucracy that exists solely so they can better document my every move, penny pinching, corpo speak and mba brain, and low pay. Like they seem to do whatever they can to get in the way of a genuinely interesting and, at times, fun job.
There were a lot of ninja-themed tech job descriptions for a while. Have they retired that?
Maybe applicants were disappointed by the lack of opportunities to assasinate people
Personally I reserve “Passion” for work I have elected to do. I think “ Competency” should suffice in the regular 9 to 5. That MEGACORP Middle Management mindset of trying incept our desire to work more is so vile.
Agreed. The exception I see is if you're self employed doing something that you're legitimately passionate about. I'm saying that because I'm an amateur woodworker looking forward to the day when I can make good money from this activity, which is something that I deeply love and would gladly do all day long every day of the week, even Sundays - after all, it's what I do right now, but without getting paid for it.
It is, however, incomprehensible to me that someone would be "passionate" about a bullshit office job. It doesn't even have to be bullshit, honestly. You can even enjoy it, but how can you be passionate about it, knowing that you only get to enjoy a fraction of the fruits of your labor? Or knowing that you're just an easily replaceable cog in a soulless machine? I don't know, man. It just doesn't feel right to me.
i could be passionate about working in nature, i like volunteering to clear invasives at my park and leading groups, but the environment conservation isnt profitable so theres about 3 of those jobs around here.
that's a shame, because it's an incredibly important job
Cyberaecurity is super boring especially if you're securing some piece of shit company you hate.And good luck finding a job in that field that pays a living wage and isn't for some piece of shit company.
Anyway, tell your boss youll show your passion for it if he sends you to defcon all expenses paid.
I automatically avoid job posts with this. As well as the we are a family and work-life balance bs.
this is actually at my current job, when i talked about changing roles and how i would do that. IT certifications? sure, makes sense. but then the dipshit said the word passion. if someone can do the job who gives a fuck about passion? middle managers.
personally i don't have the luxury of avoiding any job posts and i know the right answers to give them and just do that. once on the job I do agitate, educate and organize, though. the thing is, though, I also DID have a passion for my job for many years but over the years its gotten harder to really enjoy it like I used to when I was younger. I still find personal and hobby projects fun, though and get excited by tech but getting excited about being exploited is just much harder these days, even if the pay and benefits are 2-5 times better than what my friends are making.
Lol. Not really. But I gave up on what I went to school for. I hate marketing.
