I know we all hate people like Bezos and Gates, but the real leeches on society are the people who directly own capital responsible for natural resource exploitation.

While tech billionaires are bad, the capital that they own is all tied to R&D or software, the resource barons on the other hand, own and control vast swathes of land and infrastructure that exploit natural resources.

Oil barons, real estate tycoons, Coal barons are the greatest evils.

Know your enemy comrades.

  • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This is a bad take. Both are parasites primarily due to wage theft, natural resource barons just happen to be parasites for an additional, bonus reason.

    • Samsara [he/him,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah they're both parasites I'm drinking and my message didnt come through properly lol

  • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I agree and disagree. Amazon is built on exploitation at every point in the supply chain. Ppl make all that junk that ppl impulse buy, and all material is exploited from the land.

    Computers made Gates rich, and their production depends on really terrible mining. Like the same capitalist-coup-supported open-pit lithium mines in Bolivia, and the 'artisanal' child-worked cobalt mines of Uganda that made Elon rich off of lithium batteries.

    The economy is, fundamentally, material. And all material is from the land.

    I agree, tho, we would do ourselves a service to focus less on the popular billionaires and pay more attention to the machinations of oil corps, and exploitative american mining companies plundering other countries' resources and the like.

    • Samsara [he/him,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I agree, tho, we would do ourselves a service to focus less on the popular billionaires and pay more attention to the machinations of oil corps, and exploitative american mining companies plundering other countries’ resources and the like

      This is what I wanted to say, I'm just kinda drunk rn, and it came out wrong. Now that I read it, it sounds like I'm a lowkey bezos apologist. None of that lol I'm just upset we don't talk about the other kind if billionaires

      • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Ahahah no worries, I get you. Drunk posting is praxis, comrade. And so is reminding leftists that maybe we shouldn't only focus on the billionaires that the billionaire-owned media wants us to o7

  • leftofthat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I don't agree if you're suggesting that Amazon inventory and warehouses aren't "capital responsible for natural resource exploitation." It's a different part of the chain, but I fail to see a meaningful distinction. If you're going to say "not tech billionaires" you should back that up. Looks like both are "real parasites" to me.

    • mayor_pete_buttigieg [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      IMO Bezos doesn't really count as a tech billionarie because Amazon's primary business is in ecomm shipping and even AWS is mostly about renting data center capacity, not about buying software.

      Zuckerberg, the Paypal guys (fuck Thiel tho), Ellison, and McAfee (my personal favorite billionaire) are software and services billionaires.

      • leftofthat [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        That's a very fair point I was more blindly reacting to the post. But I will still call Zuckerberg a "real parasite" I don't think trying to draw that distinction promotes much here

  • JuanGuaido [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In my country we have opposite problem. Because there is public ownership of oil, there is no incentive for American businesses to invest in our country or for United States to provide aid. I would like to change this and would help do so if elected el presidente. My people deserve a better quality of life and this can happen by cooperating with los Estados Unidos de América. I am told there is a very good history of this helping countries in South America.

  • Will2Live [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I don't get your point. They are all one class, and they all have each other's backs.

    You think Gates and Musk don't have a stake in the deregulation of natural resources? In American resource hegemony? Do you think they're not drooling over the thought of a cold war against China to get unfettered access to the Inner Mongolia mines? Are you already forgetting how Tesla's stock price jumped after the Bolivia coup?

    Do you not realize that Bezos became obscenely wealthy by monopolizing the marketing operations of thousands of different firms that collectively "own and control vast swathes of land and infrastructure that exploit natural resources"

    Are you not seeing how Gates' software empire works hand in hand with a hardware industry that requires massive amounts of petroleum products and rare earth minerals to sustain itself?

  • Lee [any,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This totally ignores the massive impact the tech industry has on the environment and our society as consumers lol

  • Cyrus [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I would say that the tech giants are a more important enemy. Very hard to get people to unite against natural resource barons when they are systematically brainwashed by data collection and propaganda pumped into their social media 20 times a day