The West Virginia Democrat told the White House he is firmly against a clean electricity program that is the muscle behind the president’s plan to battle climate change.
https://www.versobooks.com/books/3665-how-to-blow-up-a-pipeline preaching to the choir here, but this is a pretty cool book about how the pacifism of the climate movement is antiquated and ineffective. The scholar (and once protester) argues against harming people, but in favor of targeted property destruction of the tools of fossil fuel extraction.
Fuckin feds ruin any fun when it comes to organizing that sort of thing, though. I think principled Cadre could lead moments of mass action towards spontaneous goals like this, though. When the inevitable next oil spill occurs, or heat wave happens, or whatever the event is that sparks protests, use it to get into a crowd and drum up support for specific property destruction. That's what I think is next and unable to be easily infiltrated by feds. 500 committed Cadre across the country operating from a principled place of agitating for property destruction during mass protests can cause serious damage to infrastructure and raise the confidence and militancy of a climate movement.
The scholar (and once protester) argues against harming people, but
Ok so like I know electoralism bad and the dems would just find a new scapegoat but like... is there a good reason people like Manchin and Sinema shouldn't be [REMOVED]? Like... removed from being alive?
If everyone who pulls this shit gets killed it seems like people would stop doing it, considering afaik it is driven solely by a profit motive.
I think if politicians started dying as a proxy attack on the capital that sponsors them, then the reaction would be sharp and brutal.
I’d keep an eye on what happens in the U.K. in the coming months after that Tory cumstain was stabbed today. More cops, more surveillance, less rights, backed by all political parties.
Morally? Of course not. But with where popular consciousness is at now that's likely to make them martyrs of liberalsm and backlash to the movement. As things get worse that may change what level of violence the general public is willing to tolerate - but that book was written as an intervention to the climate movement circa 2019. That's pre-covid, so maybe it's already a little out of date. I personally think oil-execs would be a target a plurality of Americans would understand violence against, but it's probably better to start with targeted property destruction tactically. Normalize real resistance to fossil fuel extraction before going for harming people.
TO BE CLEAR. THIS IS AN ACADEMIC DISCUSSION AND I AM BY NO MEANS ADVOCATING FOR THE HARM OF ANY PERSON.
What would happen if someone took out those genocidal ghouls? Would their replacements be any better? No, most certainly not. Would it terrorise other ghouls into acting responsibly and passing the necessary policies? No, not without the presence of a large militant movement willing and capable of doing the same to them. Would it make them into martyrs and alienate working class people from realistic climate policies? Probably, given the current ideological state of society. Would it result in good militant activists being killed or thrown in jail, thereby being rendered unable to contribute to the struggle? Yes, most likely.
it's very difficult to do, and would not have the effect you want it to have. These freaks fear nothing. They crave death. They want someone to release them from the hell they've built for everyone.
https://www.versobooks.com/books/3665-how-to-blow-up-a-pipeline preaching to the choir here, but this is a pretty cool book about how the pacifism of the climate movement is antiquated and ineffective. The scholar (and once protester) argues against harming people, but in favor of targeted property destruction of the tools of fossil fuel extraction.
Fuckin feds ruin any fun when it comes to organizing that sort of thing, though. I think principled Cadre could lead moments of mass action towards spontaneous goals like this, though. When the inevitable next oil spill occurs, or heat wave happens, or whatever the event is that sparks protests, use it to get into a crowd and drum up support for specific property destruction. That's what I think is next and unable to be easily infiltrated by feds. 500 committed Cadre across the country operating from a principled place of agitating for property destruction during mass protests can cause serious damage to infrastructure and raise the confidence and militancy of a climate movement.
Ok so like I know electoralism bad and the dems would just find a new scapegoat but like... is there a good reason people like Manchin and Sinema shouldn't be [REMOVED]? Like... removed from being alive?
If everyone who pulls this shit gets killed it seems like people would stop doing it, considering afaik it is driven solely by a profit motive.
I think if politicians started dying as a proxy attack on the capital that sponsors them, then the reaction would be sharp and brutal.
I’d keep an eye on what happens in the U.K. in the coming months after that Tory cumstain was stabbed today. More cops, more surveillance, less rights, backed by all political parties.
Morally? Of course not. But with where popular consciousness is at now that's likely to make them martyrs of liberalsm and backlash to the movement. As things get worse that may change what level of violence the general public is willing to tolerate - but that book was written as an intervention to the climate movement circa 2019. That's pre-covid, so maybe it's already a little out of date. I personally think oil-execs would be a target a plurality of Americans would understand violence against, but it's probably better to start with targeted property destruction tactically. Normalize real resistance to fossil fuel extraction before going for harming people.
TO BE CLEAR. THIS IS AN ACADEMIC DISCUSSION AND I AM BY NO MEANS ADVOCATING FOR THE HARM OF ANY PERSON.
Well certainly, completely academic discussion and all. Some interesting points to consider.
Indeed, very academic, I'm putting this simulation in my next Minecraft education mod :big-cool:
What would happen if someone took out those genocidal ghouls? Would their replacements be any better? No, most certainly not. Would it terrorise other ghouls into acting responsibly and passing the necessary policies? No, not without the presence of a large militant movement willing and capable of doing the same to them. Would it make them into martyrs and alienate working class people from realistic climate policies? Probably, given the current ideological state of society. Would it result in good militant activists being killed or thrown in jail, thereby being rendered unable to contribute to the struggle? Yes, most likely.
it's very difficult to do, and would not have the effect you want it to have. These freaks fear nothing. They crave death. They want someone to release them from the hell they've built for everyone.