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  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Isn't the excuse people make for them that their voters are republicans and that if they did good things instead of bad things, they would loose to a real republican who would do bad things and then there would be one person less with a D next to their name in the senate, which is bad?

    • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Basically yes. Dontcha want the Dems to have these seats not the republicans?? So they gotta act like republicans...

      Oh wait you actually want them to do something not just have a D? Damn.

      Weather this argument is accurate... Well I don't think so. Republicans hate them anyway

      • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I mean it's pretty obviously accurate, Manchin won in a state Trump won by 40 points.

        He's still a shitbag, obviously, but if "Republicans hated him anyway" they would not have elected him.

    • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I mean yes, it is literally impossible for these people (at least Manchin) to win without significant Republican support. Like, probably 30-40% of Manchin's voters are also Trump voters. That isn't an excuse as much as it is a mathematical fact.

      And it's also demonstrably true that moderate Republican voters do cross over and vote for Democrats sometimes, just as some moderate Democrat voters cross over and vote Republican. Joe Manchin won because large numbers of Republicans crossed over. Susan Collins won because large numbers of Democrats crossed over. Again, not an excuse, just historical fact. A lot of leftists don't like to hear that "challenging your own party generally does get you crossover votes" fact, but that doesn't make it less true.

      It doesn't let Manchin off for the shit he's pulling, of course.